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Şengün Out For a Week

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by aaquaa, Jan 1, 2022.

  1. AlperenSengun

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    The Turkish interview is very fluid and clear, especially for a basketball player. I am impressed.

    Sengun is probably the steal of this class and most likely this will be one of the best classes in years.
     
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    If he is the steal of the steals that would be great.

    Tons of steals in the drafts.
     
  3. ApacheWarrior

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    No. He needs to get more minutes.
     
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    lol. With all the other dumbass posts, this probably did deserve its own thread. Thanks.
     
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  6. CHAMPBOY

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    I think Sengun should still be playing at least 25 minutes a game. He is not played enough and he does not have great condition but he can handle 25 minutes a game.
     
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  7. ApacheWarrior

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    Hugfrk gfer hikjko v ds xderrttil!mm xuij Sengun nmjp kjhb cxay yuijf !!!

    That's Charlie Brown's teacher cussing you out
     
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  8. AlperenSengun

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    He is explaining what Silas's justification for his playing time is. Whether this justification makes sense or not, he also says his body is now used to the nba and he wants to play more. He is saying that with back to backs, traveling and busy schedule it takes time to adjust but this is nothing special to him, every rookie has the same difficulty. He does not say that as something he can't handle, rather something he got used to. There is no reason for him not to play 25 minutes a game.
     
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  9. ApacheWarrior

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    I understand what was written.

    Silas feels he is protecting Sengun from max
    fatigue levels that hit every rookie. Called the rookie wall

    Sengun said he feels the grind of more games per week with back to backs and having to travel West coast to East coast is not easy.

    I've noted how Sengun doesn't shoot 3's much since game 23. People just don't get how gruelling the 82 game NBA season is. Distance covered to travel.
    It takes a toll on the newbies

    Getting a second wind at game 30 doesn't mean
    by game 60 the player won't be completely exhausted and fully spent. And then 22 more games after that.
     
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  10. AlperenSengun

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    Yes, there is a rookie wall but I don't see the validity of Silas's reasoning (actually there is not much reasoning, this is just what he does) that Sengun needs more protection than Green or JC.
     
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  11. ApacheWarrior

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    If I was the coach I would be doing the same as Silas.

    The pace of the NBA can be break neck speed. Are you not watching
    Sengun running up and down the court as teams miss a shot and the
    other team gets the rebound and try racing down the court only to
    miss a shoot and the Rockets get the rebound and try to race down at the
    other end. Poor Sengun is like winded and going back and forth with many
    empty trips as the play is already headed the other way.

    Big guys can't sustain that. The Rockets have one of the highest Paces in the
    league and Sengun has one of the highest Paces individually. It's not because
    Sengun wants to run back and forth at a break neck pace....it's because the
    opposing teams want to get out and run when Sengun is on the court.

    Near 30 games is nothing.....in a 400 meter race, Sengun is just coming around
    the first turn. 52 games more or less remaining in this 82 game marathon.
    Not exactly travelling in Turkey where all the teams are within one hour away.
     
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  12. AlperenSengun

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    I dare you to travel in turkey :D:p.

    It is probably how busy the schedule is rather than the travel time. I’d rather be on the rockets plane and fly 3 hours, then go to the airport and take a commercial short flight in turkey :D . There is jet lag as well. Overall there is no question nba season is much more demanding, though.

    Still if Mobley can play 33 minutes a night, Sengun can play 25 a night. Then a discussion like this can make sense. He was playing 15 minutes at some point.

    Hopefully this discussion will be meaningless by next fall. If not then we have a serious problem.

    apart from minutes I would love to see Sengun on the floor with Green, JC and Tate, even garuba more.
     
  13. ApacheWarrior

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    Turkey is 1000 miles East to West and about 300 to 400 miles north to south.

    U.S.A is about 2,678 miles East to West.....with some back to back games.

    I looked at the Turkey schedule. I didn't see any back to back games.

    Again, the season is playing each team twice.....one home game and one
    away game. Then a tournament. Try doing that twice as much in the NBA.
    See if you're not tired midway through an NBA season going against bigger
    and faster plsyers?

    Sengun has played 35 games.....could pace himself to putting it all on the line
    knowing the off-season is right there to recuperate.....not in the NBA. The journey
    continues. Mobley has missed some games with a sprained elbow and then
    another stint with tendentious of the knees.

    With all due respect Marcus and Markieff would be all first team in Turkey.
    They don't make an All Star team in the NBA. Sorry to say.
     
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  14. AlperenSengun

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    yes I agree to that. NBA schedule is crazy compared to Turkish schedule with much more traveling. What I don’t see, what is special about alperen that limits his time to half to 60% the minutes of other rookies like Mobley who should have more or less same concerns. If that is the real reason then I think it is an overkill. The more plausible explanation for me is: Silas had something else in mind that he does not want to communicate.
     
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    Evan Mobley
    First 20 games shot 1.9 (3PA's) at 34.2% (3P%)
    Last 9 games shot 1.1 (3PA) at 20.0% (3P%)

    Yes the Rookie Wall.....first thing to go are the legs.
    Shooting for distance. We saw it with Dekker.
     
  16. AlperenSengun

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    Oh i see why you posted east to west miles now. I mentioned jetlag for USA, not Turkey. Turkey does not have jetlag and most basketball teams are in in western/central turkey. Of course travel in turkey is much less.

    But the travels are more tiring but again since the number is much less, there is a lot of time to recover. So I have no objection to the fact that nba schedule is very tough relatively (and absolultely).
     
  17. AlperenSengun

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    Exactly! but that was not a reason to start him with 15 minutes. I am not objecting to any of your points. I am saying the measures taken to prevent these are too much and does not make sense. That is what makes me think there should be something else. If not the minute limiting is way too much.
     
  18. ApacheWarrior

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    Sengun
    First 17 games shot 1.2 (3PA) at 42.9% (3P%)
    Last 18 games shot 1.0 (3PA) at 16.7% (3P%)

    You don't want to admit Sengun is tired, but he is.
    I see it, and other teams see it. You can continue
    burying your head in the sand.....but he is supplying
    no spacing. Teams are daring him to shoot the three.
     
  19. ApacheWarrior

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    Sengun has averaged 18.4 minutes a game this season

    If Silas or I had given him the 29 minutes a game like Clutchfans
    have been proposing.....poor Sengun would be on life support
    machine every week. IV's up the Ying-Yang.

    Forget about it
     
  20. AlperenSengun

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    So Sengun's 3P% fell along the season, ... like Mobley, who still gets his minutes. And which does not justify the 15 minutes at the beginning of the season.

    Sengun being tired is the only real point you made here. It might be true. I don't see it on the court and Sengun said that his body got used to the high pace of the season but I am happy to disagree.
     

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