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[WSJ] Biden to warn Putin not to invade Ukraine

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Dec 7, 2021.

  1. tinman

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    Ukraine?

    If I were Putin I would take over California
    They are letting people smash and grab all the jewelry and Louis Vutton they want . They can have Oakland.
    Also why don’t they send their troops to the southern border and change their names from
    Alexi to Antonio
    They can just walk across
     
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    "NATO Seems to Exist to Torment Putin"
     
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    At least he knows what he wants and doesn’t pander to people who hate Dave chappelle
    You got to give him props for not being some soft woke sucker

    nobody smashing and grabbing chains in Russia
     
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    I think the problem here is that there’s no American entertainer that’s respected in Russia which mimics the political situation



    @KingCheetah
     
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  6. Os Trigonum

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    Trump managed to not get us tangled up in any wars. If Biden F's that up it better not be with freaking Russia of all countries.
     
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    not shocking at all. The local cult around me has already started praising Putin as a good strong leader. Plus Ukraine didn't go along with trump plan to launch a bogus investigation on Biden so the locals here want some payback.
     
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    I haven't heard anyone official or otherwise propose war with Russia.
     
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    Trump started the trade war w China, in addition to hurting consumers/farmers, screwed up the global supply chain.


    Trump’s Pledge to Exit Afghanistan Was a Ruse, His Final SecDef Says


    Chris Miller, Trump’s last acting defense secretary, said the 45's public promise to finish withdrawing U.S. forces by May 1, as negotiated with the Taliban, was actually a “play” that masked the Trump administration’s true intentions:
    to convince Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to quit or accept a bitter power-sharing agreement with the Taliban, and to keep some U.S. troops in Afghanistan for counterrorism missions.​
     
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    yeah again, war is a little bit different than whatever the hell you are talking about
     
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    Putin obviously waited for Trump to be out of office to do this. Reality is that Russia can invade the Ukraine if they want, there's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Russia knows the west won't go to war over this, but they do know they will be hit with heavy sanctions.

    So Putin may not want those sanctions, or the prize of getting Ukraine back might be too juicy and worth the social unrest and economic issues the country will face given.

    Regardless it's his choice and there's nothing anyone else can do about it. If the West wants to avoid an invasion by Russia, the only thing they can do is state they won't admit Ukraine into Nato.

    If I'm Ukraine, I would offer Russia a pact to never attempt to join NATO so long as Russia agrees to never amass troops again and withdraws the proxy war. In exchange Ukraine will commit to be a neutral nation.
     
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    Ukraine is game to you?

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    War doesn't happen over a day. The reasonings for war often take years to decades to reach the point of war.

    So for example Trump pulling out of the Iran deal can eventually lead to war. Trump ramping up drone casualties can lead to war as it increases the odds of future terrorists etc.
     
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    Barry definitely ramped them up. Trump just ramped it up more AND reversed a Obama era executive order to make all drone causalities public information.
     
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    minor incursion.

     
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