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Kevin Porter Jr. loses temper, leaves Toyota Center during 2nd half

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jan 1, 2022.

  1. jiggyfly

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    What does Tyler Hero have to do with anything?

    Wanting to develop a young player like KPJ has nothing to do with thinking he has All-Star potential or hyping him up, I want him to stay because I think he can be a valuable rotation piece at his worst and a good starter on a team with more talent.

    This KPJ hate is ridiculous the same **** I am wary of what happened but let's not act like the guy is just a scrub, not a lot of young pg's would have success with this roster and his true position is not pg but a combo guard.

    I knew all of these losses were going to start taking a toll it's just the nature of the beast.
     
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  2. tehG l i d e

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    Jumping through all these hoops just for a player with 36% FG and one of the worst turnover per touches % in the league
     
  3. jiggyfly

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    What is the risk for keeping him?

    We might not make the playoffs?

    There is zero risk for keeping young talented guys at this point in a rebuild.
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    What hoops have we jumped through?

    No need to just make **** up, this is the 1st issue he has had since he has been in Houston.
     
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    One poster brought up a post I haven't thought about. We have way too many young guys, we can afford to lose a few. Cause right now our coaching staff does not seem capable to handle a player like kpj.

    I do see the logic. It is quite worrisome we lack the vets and coach to handle this. I also see that getting rid of kpj bc of our weakness does nothing either. I rather we address the org structure before getting rid of a player like kpj who actually tries
     
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    We are sitting 40 million to “develop” this chump pretending to be a PG
     
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    I really don’t know when it comes to KPJr…u handle him with kid gloves, he’ll start feeling entitled and thinking he has clout…u show him tough love, he won’t be able to handle it

    we gave him the starting position and 30+ mpg even tho he’s 1 of the worst players in the league and had been acquired for a measly top 55 protected pick…the minute u try to get on him for his play, he completely loses it and explodes

    Lucas has to gauge his mood before coaching him because if he tries to be too hard, KPJr might melt down and tune him out…I mean, c’mon

    I do wonder if he’d dare to try these stunts in a Lebron, Pop, or Miami Heat locker room. He’d have to have balls of vibranium because that would be the end of his career for sure
     
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  8. Hemingway

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    I’m very optimistic and forgiving in general. Maybe my rose colored glasses are getting the best of me, but I really think he just needs more playing time at PG to become a force offensively. His defensive improvement speaks volumes to me about how bad he wants it. Just hope he can find the mental fortitude to make it through the process. This season is a tank anyway, so I don’t see any harm in taking the chance. I don’t agree that he is bring those around him down. They are all a work in progress, and I, for one, am seeing improvement from all the rookies.
     
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  9. Reeko

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    a guy like Tyler Herro has been called a scrub on here plenty of times, but he actually balls out…meanwhile KPJr who genuinely sucks “would go top 5 in this past draft easy” and has star potential

    at the end of the day, the man can’t shoot and has atrocious efficiency, but needs the ball in his hands…PG, combo guard, SF, he’ll be a disaster unless his shooting and efficiency become respectable
     
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  10. jiggyfly

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    Can we afford to lose young talented guys?

    Did we think that KPJ was magically fixed just because he got traded to Houston?

    Why did we trade for him if we were gonna cut him at the 1st sign of trouble, did we not think there were gonna be rough patches?

    I agree that this team at this time is probably the worst place for a player like KPJ to be in, the losing has to be getting to him, everyone knew he was emotional so I don't understand the outrage and yes he actually gives a **** which is hard when you are getting your ass beat every night.
     
  11. J Sizzle

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    A valid point, but I've maintained he's a 6th man, not a starting point guard. I still like him long term in that role, especially if we can keep him for relatively cheap which it seems could be feasible since he's hell-bent on tanking any sort of upside to his value on the market.
     
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    The risk is again creating issues in the locker room. Why did the Cavs give up on him? They told him to stay away from the team gave him away for nothing. Are the Cavs in a rebuild? So you can’t say there is zero risks to keeping him. When the Cavs who I think know more about Porter than anyone of us here. They certainly thought he was more than a zero risk in keeping him.
     
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    We traded him for a worthless 2nd round pick that won’t convey. Basically nothing.
     
  14. Reeko

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    Am I a bit jaded these days after witnessing the destruction of the Rockets 1st hand post-Tilman? I am, I won’t lie. I’m just calling it how I see it tho. I will never be high on KPJr with that level of shooting and inefficiency. The way some of y’all talk about him, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. It’s like his shooting splits don’t exist. Why are we pretending that u can win with a primary ballhandler that can’t shoot in today’s NBA? Then off the court, what he did last night is wild. Leaving the arena mid-game? Crazy
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    Just because some posters are stupid or trolling calling Hero a scrub still has jack **** to do with KPJ, now if you are talking about specific posters call them out.

    I disagree with you that KPJ genuinely sucks I think he can be a legitimate rotation player on a good team and is playing out of position he is more combo guard than pg and even if he was a true pg this team would not be good to show his skills.

    I don't think he 'needs" the ball in his hands he is just doing what he is being asked and that under trying circumstances the fact you think he is just trash is crazy IMO.

    I would like to see his season splits because the eye test is saying he has been better in shot selection and efficiency over the last 20 games he has played.
     
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    The risk is that his atrocious attitude and decision making starts to effect the other young players and hampers their growth.

    The same reason Cleveland gave him away, and nobody really wanted him
     
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    Kind of a big issue though. Arguing with coaches on sidelines or after games I get. Leaving during halftime is a whole other level.
     
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    KPJ just not cut out to be in the professional league. He has been given a chance to lead this team and he leaves his teammates during the half because he did not like what one of the coaches had to say?! What is management thinking that this guy can even lead at PG?! He is not playing that well anyways.
     
  19. jiggyfly

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    That still does not address my point of why trade for him in the 1st place since we knew he had issues and he has far outplayed what we traded for him so what's the harm in still working with him.

    He had an outburst I am surprised he has not had more with the losing this much.
     
  20. jiggyfly

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    Not saying it's not a big issue, still don't think it means cutting the guy.

    What's your point?
     

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