The Hot Car Act requires new vehicles to be equipped with technology that’ll detect if someone is still inside when the engine is off, alerting the driver and others near the vehicle to prevent injuries or death by heatstroke. 23 children died this year being left in hot cars. This is great since over 1,000 children have died from heatstroke in hot cars since 1990. Any death that can be prevented is a good thing. What's weird though is that the numbers aren't even remotely close to the deaths of children by guns, yet people are hell bent on dismissing that when fighting and clawing and screaming at proposed changes in gun laws. Old study I came across that's really scary and disturbing. Results of the study, just published in the American Journal of Medicine, show that from 1999 to 2017, 38,942 firearm-related deaths occurred in 5 to 18 year olds. These included 6,464 deaths in children between the ages of 5 to 14 years old (average of 340 deaths per year), and 32,478 deaths in children between the ages of 15 to 18 years old (average of 2,050 deaths per year). "It is sobering that in 2017, there were 144 police officers who died in the line of duty and about 1,000 active duty military throughout the world who died, whereas 2,462 school-age children were killed by firearms," said Charles H. Hennekens, M.D., senior author, first Sir Richard Doll Professor, and senior academic advisor in FAU's Schmidt College of Medicine. Nearly 2,400 children and adolescents aged 5-18 died by suicide in the United States in 2018, making suicide the second leading cause of death in this age group.1 Suicide rates among children and adolescents have increased by over 80% over the past decade in the U.S. Of those deaths, about 40% involved firearms. Suicide rates among children and adolescents who live in homes with guns are four times higher than among those in homes without guns. https://www.srcd.org/research/access-firearms-increases-child-and-adolescent-suicide Final Question Knowing children in homes with guns commit suicide 4 times more than those in homes without guns do you choose guns and take that risk? Are guns more important than reducing the risk of suicide in your children?
Sorry to hijack this thread but this title really reminds me whats happening in afgan A Million Afghan Children Could Starve This Winter. Are US Sanctions to Blame? Partly as a result of US policy, Afghanistan’s economy is expected to contract by 30 percent. It's estimated 3 million children starve to death every year, is it really righteous to directly aid mass starvation over policy control?
You should make this your own thread. This has nothing to do with gun deaths of American children. That was the point of my thread.
men with guns steal food meant for starving children Taliban gunmen steal tonnes of Australian food sent to the poorest Afghanistan families who face starving to death in famines as the country's economy collapses Islamic militants took off with 3.7 tonnes of Australian flour meant for the poor Taliban gunmen stole the vital staple from UN aid workers in Badakshan region Afghanistan is facing a 'catastrophic' famine as the nation descends into chaos https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...n-food-sent-poorest-Afghanistan-families.html
Do you think we could solve world hunger for less than 6 billion? I'm ok with more guns if we can feed children in afganistan
The whole idea that having a gun to protect your family somehow outweighs the risk of an accidental shooting or suicide opportunity is completely asinine. There are about 100 home invasion murders annually versus 18,000 suicides. https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...-the-irrational-fear-of-home-invasion/266613/ Having a gun in a house with children is an illogical and unnecessary risk.
but a minimum of 60,000 "defensive gun uses" annually according to the CDC: Although definitions of defensive gun use vary, it is generally defined as the use of a firearm to protect and defend one’s self, family, others, and/or property against crime or victimization. Estimates of defensive gun use vary depending on the questions asked, populations studied, timeframe, and other factors related to the design of studies. The report Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence indicates a range of 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html
CRIME COMES TO THE SUBURBS https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/12/crime-comes-to-the-suburbs-2.php excerpt: POSTED ON DECEMBER 29, 2021 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN CRIME Edina is one of Minneapolis’s wealthiest suburbs. At one time, its public school system was considered to be among America’s best. Formerly a quintessential Republican suburb, Edina has trended Democratic in recent cycles and is now considered a firmly Democratic town. But that may be about to change. Historically, Edina’s desirability was due largely to its proximity to downtown Minneapolis. But bordering on Minneapolis is no longer a virtue. The violent crime wave that has wracked Minneapolis since the George Floyd riots has come to Edina. Alpha News tells the story of the crime that rocked the tony suburb: The suspects are 16-year-old Kanye Hardiman, 17-year-old Cayden Whitmore and 17-year-old Vance Chatman — all of whom are from Minneapolis and face first-degree carjacking-related charges. Edina’s public schools enthusiastically teach the doctrines of Critical Race Theory, but it is one thing to philosophize about white privilege and another to be carjacked at your local grocery store. “[At about] 5:00 p.m., the white SUV next went to an Edina grocery store. This is the Edina Lunds & Byerlys store, one of the country’s top grocery chains. “There, the SUV pulled into a parking spot next to an adult female victim who was sitting inside her vehicle,” according to an account of events from the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office. Next, “Hardiman and Chatman proceeded to enter the female victim’s passenger’s side doors — one in the front and the back.” Bystanders intervened, one was bitten and they were not effective in extracting the criminals from the woman’s vehicle. The accused criminals successfully took control. “Chatman eventually put the female victim’s vehicle in reverse as he tried to flee the scene,” the attorney’s office reports. However, he was not able to make a clean getaway. Instead, “he struck another male victim in the head with the driver’s side door as he accelerated backwards, and ran over the male victim’s legs.” Meanwhile, the woman “was still entangled by her seat belt and was dragged through the parking lot as her vehicle was being driven by Chatman.” What a nightmare! Suburban housewife goes shopping at an elite grocery store and gets carjacked. The violence finally stopped when “a witness, who has a permit to carry a firearm, intervened and pulled out a gun.” This caused the criminals to flee. Liberal voters in suburbs like Edina hate guns, but thank goodness for this permit holder. more at the link
does Qanon care about abortion? because there's 600k of those every year https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm
Not going to spend $30 to read that study but I can imagine if you go to areas where gun violence is high and ask gang members and others about “defensive gun uses” you would have quite a high count. But that doesn’t mean its evenly spread out throughout the country. And yes violence and home invasions do occur even in the affluent areas and the burbs. When they do happen the sensationalist news media is quick to shove it in your face. You want to protect your family? Make sure they eat right, exercise, don’t smoke or drink and drive defensively. Heart disease, cancer and car accidents are what you should be worried about not home invasion boogeymen.
most recent year I could find Victimization During Household Burglary https://bjs.ojp.gov/press-release/victimization-during-household-burglary excerpt: HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS EXPERIENCED VIOLENCE IN ABOUT SEVEN PERCENT OF HOUSEHOLD BURGLARIES FROM 2003 THROUGH 2007 WASHINGTON – An estimated 3.7 million household burglaries occurred each year from 2003 through 2007, and about seven percent (266,560) involved some form of violent victimization, the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in the Office of Justice Programs, U.S. Department of Justice, announced today. Victims said they knew the offender in 65 percent of violent household burglaries, and in 28 percent of such burglaries victims said the offender was a stranger. Residents in all of these households were equally likely to be victimized by a current or former intimate partner as they were by a stranger. Offenders were unarmed in 61 percent of the violent household burglaries that occurred between 2003 and 2007. In 12 percent of violent household burglaries offender possessed a firearm. About 23 percent of these firearm-related burglaries were committed by a stranger. Between 2000 and 2007, the rate of burglary of unoccupied households declined from 26 to 21 victimizations per 1,000 households. The rate of household burglary when someone was home remained stable between 2000 (9 per 1,000 households) and 2007 (8 per 1,000 households). Households composed of married couples without children experienced the lowest rate of burglary both when no one was home (14 per 1,000 households) and while a household member was present (four per 1,000 households). Single females with children experienced the highest rate of burglary while someone was present in the household (22 victimizations per 1,000 households). Higher income households experienced lower rates of burglary regardless of whether the residence was occupied or not. Single family units (eight per 1,000 households) and higher density structures of 10 or more units (eight per 1,000 households) generally experienced lower rates of burglary while someone was home. more at the link, including a link to the full report
We theoretically could by building a supply chain around it. As for the upfront/upkeep costs and whether people would still give a **** after declaring Mission Accomplished for the War on Hunger, that's another story.
Ok, so that's 11 percent higher than armed households, and we aren't talking murders here. In fact, how many children are actually murdered by intruders? The fact is that children in houses with guns are 4 times more likely to commit suicide. Do you say.....oh, that would never be my kid and take that risk by saying your guns are to protect your kids against a far less risk of them actually being killed by an intruder?
someone made the statement "The whole idea that having a gun to protect your family somehow outweighs the risk of an accidental shooting or suicide opportunity is completely asinine." the Department of Justice says there are well over 250,000 violent home burglaries every year. The idea that one might wish to own a firearm to guard against violent home burglaries and that one might rationally weigh the risk against "accidental shooting or suicide" is most definitely NOT asinine. Just because there are posters here who would not make that calculation of risk for themselves is no reason to label that calculation of risk by others as "asinine."
Os sleeps with the toolie under the pillow having pretty dreams in his trap cabin on Wish a MF Wood boulevard (county road?)
I said it and I stand by it. It’s asinine and irresponsible. You’re putting you kids more at risk than you are protecting them. Period. You live in fear of home invasions? From your above post: There are 141 million residences in the US according to Google. You said 250,000 violent burglaries. That’s .18%. Now only 28% of those are done by strangers which is what people fear. So that’s 70,000 out of 141 million which is .05%. If you live in a lower crime more affluent area that drops even further. Much further. Now consider all the other ways you could help mitigate and deter this already statistically insignificant risk. An alarm system, cameras, burglar bars, a big damn dog, etc. All those will help without the risk of accidental shooting or suicide. They would actually be much more preventative than a gun because the would be burglar would see them before they made their move and think twice. Owning a gun is illogical and predicated on irrational fears of statistical insignificance. However if owning one helps you overcome your fear and sleep better at night then that is your right and more power to you. But there is no argument to be made that it’s more potentially beneficial than harmful given the numbers and alternatives.
