Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

they were just tourists, right?

 

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

§2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

 

There will be no reply. There is nothing that can be listed to counter the logic which refutes simplistic fantasy conspiracy theories.

 

We will soon see how quickly that story changes...

 

Yes. Walking around and picking up discarded plastic zip-ties are none of those.

 

oh, is that all he did? lol.

look at how much time and effort yall are putting into defending and making excuses for insurrectionists vs. how much effort you put into condemning them. its quite astonishing!

 

I'm not astonished at anything he says anymore.

 

who's next

Kevein Macarthey, Mo Brooks, Paul Gozar??​

 

Do you always accept a defendant's claim as the objective truth? Interesting approach to law.

William Jefferson Clinton appreciates you.

 

I think he said he used to be a defense lawyer for criminals. I think he's just playing that role here.

 

Yes. What did you think he did?

In the very same post you initially responded to, I condemned the rioters. Why is saying what actually happened wrong?

No reason you should be, none of this is astonishing.

The prosecution has a video that they pulled off of the defendant's phone which he was using as a body worn camera. I am accepting the prosecutors factual claims based on their review of video evidence.

 

Typical lawyer BS. We will never agree on the agenda behind those traitors and how dangerous they were. Take your nitpicking fine tooth comb and legal crap and shove it. All those so called "Patriots" are a dangerous breed of Americans who are no better than Hitler's brainwashed Nazis. I hope they all get locked up along with Trump, Cruz, Rudy, Boebert, and everyone else who incited that cult and urged them on.

 

I know. Pointing out what he and many others often do: dishing out claims as facts to support an agenda.

 

Mmhmm. I literally watched a known Antifa child rally into the Capitol and film himself during the whole thing.

Moreover, the Capitol is one of the most secure places in the US, yet was taken over by unarmed folks.

I refuse to believe anyone cannot see that this was done with intent by the Government.

 

the video you posted was some random dude regurgitating an article that wonders aloud as to why certain people have not been prosecuted by the federal government. That’s not evidence. It’s wondering, piled on top of theory, on top of speculation, with zero proof.

it appears the guy believes some dudes with bullhorns duped thousands of people into storming the capitol and but for those dudes with the bullhorns, those thousands of people had no interest in invading the capitol. Because the proud boys didn’t want to do that. Neither did the folks that organized the whole thing.

And I suppose the working theory is that antifa and other democrat operatives tricked thousands of trumpers to storm the capitol, in cahoots with law enforcement who let them in, not because they were overrun, but because they wanted the trumpers in the building, and the congressmen were in cahoots too because they got evacuated.

So basically really, this is all the Dems fault that the capitol got stormed. Not trump who told folks to March down there. Not proud boys or the organizers of the thing. It was the Dems.

did I miss anything?

 

Thousands? Methinks you didn't pay attention. More like dozens...

Not one gun found on anyone, either. Pretty positive the guards at the Capitol have the right to shoot & kill. I know they've done it before to anyone who encroaches upon the White House.

 

So.. one antifa makes them all or mostly antifa? All of those folks that were cheering and loving trump just minutes before at his rally were antifa? All those folks who trump said he loved hours after the attack were antifa? All the trouble folks are going through to avoid being questioned by the committee is to protect members of antifa?

You really believe that? You really believe that the biggest threat to Democracy in our lifetime didn't occur on 01/06/2020?

 

fatty - you know that every time you make this claim im going to call you out on it. for the 4th time, the only evidence of your claim is a youtube video where the dude you claim was an antifa leader (now youre saying he was an antifa child) literally says "im not antifa". you make this false claim, then when you get called out on it you disappear from this thread for a week or so then come back and make it again...this is getting ridiculous and sad.

claiming they were unarmed is a bizarre thing to say. none of them used any guns thankfully, but are you claiming that none of them had any weapons of any kind? or that they didnt use objects as weapons? - we all saw the videos of what happened. why in the world would you say this?

insofar as the president incited them, youre absolutely correct.