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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. jchu14

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    The growth of Omicron is really incredible. Omicron is how accounting for 82% of new symptomatic cases in tests processed by Houston Methodist. https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/...ly-half-of-houston-methodists-covid-19-cases/

    TMC weekly update is also showing a dramatic increase in positivity rate, new cases, and newly admitted covid19 patients for the past week. https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-key-takeaways/

    I hope that Omicron is less severe than Delta and health care system won't be overwhelmed despite the increased transmission rate. I am keeping a close eye on UK's hospitalization rate this week to see if the hospitalization are still following number of cases.

    I am also keeping track of Houston waste water covid monitoring. The viral load in Houston waste water increased by 70% from 12/6 to 12/13. Ideally, we want to be able to see viral load going up in waste water without a corresponding increase in hospitalization. https://covidwwtp.spatialstudieslab.org/
     
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    I still find it pretty hypocritical to assume getting Covid from anyone outside the US is more dangerous than getting it from somebody in your own country. Why would you need a Covid test to fly to the US even if you are vaccinated, yet anyone vaccinated or not can fly freely around our country without Covid testing before boarding a plane?
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    Biden to announce 500 million COVID-19 at-home test buy

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...announce-500-million-covid19-at-home-test-buy

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    The new initiative comes just two weeks after White House press secretary Jen Psaki sarcastically responded to a question about why the U.S. can't subsidize massive amounts of free testing like many countries overseas. The administration had just announced that Americans with private health insurance will be able to get reimbursed for tests.

    When a reporter noted that sounded complicated and suggested tests be available for free, Psaki said defensively, "Should we just send one to every American?”

    “Then what happens if you — if every American has one test? How much does that cost, and then what happens after that?" Psaki said.
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    I appreciate the thoughtful response. a couple of comments

    well, that kind of just demonstrates that his description of the "elite" full-time professional internet surfers of Santa Monica (and elsewhere) exist and behave pretty much the way he describes. I live near another one of these elite enclaves and his description hits home as pretty much 100% accurate.

    other peoples' mileage may vary

    second point, I'm actually surprised no one yet has picked up on his claim that the people who obsess over covid seem to want the crisis to continue if not get worse:

    Bogost’s piece is an absolute classic, maybe the classic, in a particularly strange form of worry p*rn that progressives have become addicted to in the past half-decade. It’s this thing where they insist that they don’t want something to happen, but they describe it so lustily, imagine it so vividly, fixate on it so relentlessly, that it’s abundantly clear that a deep part of them wants it to happen. This was a constant experience in the Trump era – liberals would imagine that Trump was about to dissolve Congress and declare himself emperor, they’d ostensibly be opposed to such a thing, but they were so immensely invested in the seriousness and accuracy of such predictions that they’d clearly prefer for it to happen. I wrote about Chris Hayes and his bitter yearning for Trump last week, and he’s a good example, someone who ruminates on Trump and the dystopian future he might bring about with such palpable emotional pathology that it’s clear that, on some level, he needs it to happen, so that he can say “I was right.” And so with Bogost here; that level of anxious catastrophizing always carries with it the quiet, throbbing need for the bad dream to come true. Covid is already bad, very bad. I am always so confused that so many people seem desperately to want it to be worse.
    I'm not sure I agree with that part of his assessment; on the other hand I can't get inside the heads of people who are obsessive about covid, Trump, Jan 6, or whatever.
     
  5. Amiga

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    Why spokesperson talk isn’t Biden talk.

    Finally. Should have been done a long time ago and should be a few billion kits, not 500m.

    The Fed gov should have stepped in a long time ago and made sure this is widely available and easily accessible instead of leaving it up to the patchwork of states. Close to $11B were allocated to the State: ~$1B during Trump admin and ~$10B in March of this year for rapid tests - but States have failed to provide them widely.

    Might be too late for Omicron but this is very welcome for student "test to stay" recent recommendation from the CDC and lay the groundwork for potential future waves.
     
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  8. Haymitch

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    Tested positive this morning. Wife and girls tested negative, though the girls are sneezy and the infant boy is as well. Lame. All our Christmas plans are shot.
     
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  9. JumpMan

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    What symptoms did you have?
     
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    No I don't, of course it is a factor. But for me personally, I go on about my life when I know I have max protection from vax and booster.
     
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    Body soreness, slight congestion, slight sore throat. I feel fine. It's like a very weak cold.
     
  12. durvasa

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    So you know it’s a factor, but you go about life as if it’s not a controllable factor and the only thing that affects a person’s risk is their own vaccination status — not what the people around them are doing.
     
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    wait till tomorrow. Thats how it starts then the constant fever and bad headaches happen.
     
  14. IBTL

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    Yup. same. My wife positive the other day lost her smell then it came back. She's been slightly sick but not bad.
    I feel fine and went yesterday to see what since she had sneezed a ton around us when she still didn't know.

    So Im positive kids both negative.
    My wife back in a job public facing after a year and half out of work and literally within 30 days we are both positive.

    We both had the 2 moderna and we were going to get the 3rd when this happened.

    Xmas is shot
     
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    Correct.
     
  16. Amiga

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    For those wanting some data...

    Should You Vaccinate Your Kids? - by Tomas Pueyo

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    Depending on your kid, there are some nuances:

    • If your kid has comorbidities, it’s a no-brainer: the vaccine will prevent their death and other things, such as PICS, PIMS, CFS… All of these are quite bad and you want to protect your kids from them.
    • If your kid is healthy and older than 12 years old, the odds of death from COVID are very, very low. However, vaccines will protect them from PIMS (including myocarditis), PICS (including myocarditis), or Long COVID, and will reduce their myocarditis
    • If she is healthy, older than 12 years old, and a female, it’s even more of a no-brainer, since the risk of vaccine-induced myocarditis is about 5x lower.
    • If your kid is healthy and between 5 and 12 years old, they’re not likely to die of COVID, but it's still possible they'll develop PIMS, PICS, or CFS. We have clinical trials telling us that the vaccines are safe for them, and now one million of these kids vaccinated in the wild with no serious side-effects. I have two kids in that category. I will vaccinate them as soon as I can.
    • If your kid is healthy and below 5 years old, you can’t vaccinate them yet: vaccines haven’t been approved. But from what we know today, vaccines are probably safe for them, and probably prevent COVID deaths, which is important since this group has more risk of death. With what we know today, it’s a no-brainer to vaccinate them once vaccination safety is confirmed.
    If you’re on the fence, here are some additional thoughts to consider:

    • The first dose is much more valuable than the second dose, while the second dose has more side-effects. If you are in doubt, just give the first dose and then wait and see.
    • Spacing also matters. If the two shots are taken within 30 days, the rate of myocarditis is 5x higher than if they’re spaced by 60 days or more. Space the shots by 2-3 months instead of 2-3 weeks and you should be good.
    • Also, Moderna appears to have more myocarditis than Pfizer, which might be why Pfizer is approved for kids and Moderna isn’t yet in the US. In Denmark, that rate was 3x. In Canada, 5x. So just have your kid take Pfizer19.
    I started this article not knowing whether I should vaccinate my kids. But it turns out the worst side-effects of vaccines are mild myocarditis—mostly 12-17 year old males—and there have been no deaths from mRNA vaccines in kids. Compared to all the bad stuff that COVID can do to kids (death, PIMS, PICS, CFS), including more common and worse myocarditis than with vaccines, I think the answer is clear based on the data we have: you should vaccinate your kids. I will definitely vaccinate mine.
     
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    Sure you can. Just take the obsession you have of creating this weird Clutchfans persona pretending to be some kind of fake open-to-ideas above-it-all intellectual while posting randomly articles without any of your own thoughts and claiming 'they are just for discussion'. Now imagine putting all that effort into obsessing about a pandemic that's killed 1 out of every 400 people living in the country, or an nationwide attempt of political leaders to overthrow your government or other such things.
     
  18. IBTL

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    Lol dude gets called out on the daily by numerous people and yet somehow people still feed the troll and engage it
     
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    The fact he denies it and pretends is the ridiculous part. Maybe it’s what he tells himself
     

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