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[LATimes] Kamala Harris, in interview, says administration did not anticipate Omicron variant

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    Kamala Harris, in interview, says administration did not anticipate Omicron variant

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...te-omicron-variant/ar-AARVY1A?ocid=uxbndlbing

    I mean, who could have predicted it, right?

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    Vice President Kamala Harris said Friday that the administration failed to anticipate the variants that have prolonged and worsened the COVID-19 pandemic and that she underestimated the role misinformation would play in prolonging the disease that has killed 800,000 Americans.

    "We didn't see Delta coming. I think most scientists did not — upon whose advice and direction we have relied — didn't see Delta coming," she said. "We didn't see Omicron coming. And that's the nature of what this, this awful virus has been, which as it turns out, has mutations and variants."

    Harris made the comments during a wide-ranging interview with The Times in her ceremonial office that touched on immigration, women's health, the criticism she has received for her management style and her role as a history-making leader. But the vice president returned repeatedly to the chief challenge of the Biden administration: battling a pandemic that — thanks to a new fast-spreading variant, Omicron — has led many Americans to put travel plans on hold, cancel holiday parties and stock up again on masks.

    "I get it. I get it. I totally get it," she said. "I mean, you know, one of the concerns that I have is the undiagnosed and untreated trauma at various degrees that everyone has experienced."

    President Biden celebrated "independence" from the virus in an upbeat July 4 speech, saying, "While the virus hasn’t been vanquished, we know this: It no longer controls our lives. It no longer paralyzes our nation. And it’s within our power to make sure it never does again."

    At the time, some public health experts warned that his optimism was premature, given that the Delta variant was already a significant threat.

    Harris denied that the administration declared victory prematurely, or ever.

    "We have not been victorious over it," she said. "I don’t think that in any regard anyone can claim victory when, you know, there are 800,000 people who are dead because of this virus."

    Many Americans, particularly conservatives, resisted Biden's call to get vaccinated against COVID-19, a measure public health officials say is critical to avoiding hospitalization and death from the disease. Harris cited as a singular regret her failure to appreciate the power of misinformation in dissuading people to trust the vaccine.

    "I would take that more seriously," she said of the misinformation. "The biggest threat still to the American people is the threat to the unvaccinated. And most people who believe in the efficacy of the vaccine and the seriousness of the virus have been vaccinated. That troubles me deeply."

    But it could hardly have been a surprise to Harris. She spent much of her time in the administration's early months trying to overcome hesitancy among some Black people, who have endured a history of mistreatment by the medical community. Former President Trump repeatedly promoted misinformation while in office, especially as the pandemic raged. He remains active in promoting the false claim that the election was stolen, a conspiracy theory shared by many of those who refuse to get vaccinated.

    More than 70% of Americans have received at least one vaccine shot. But polling and state-level data suggest that Democrats are far more likely to have done so than Republicans. An investigation by NPR found that the higher a county's vote total for Trump, the lower its COVID-19 vaccination rate.

    Some conservatives have accused Harris of contributing to the politicization of the pandemic response, something she denied in the interview.
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    She thought Rodimus Prime killed Omicron with the Matrix
    @Xerobull
     
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    Shocking lol. She's a complete buffoon
     
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    He put the Allvax in his chest first.
     
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    Im too lazy to dig it up, but there were lots of people here defending her prior to the election, despite her being one of the first major candidates to drop out.

    At least the mainstream republicans knew sarah palin was a complete joke
     
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    I wouldn't call her a complete buffoon, but this is very close to it. Politically naive/blind and factually wrong.
     
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    I can agree with her about the degree of misinformation out there but that variants were going to arise was something that was known for a long time already. Even last winter there was talk of variants arising in the UK.

    I look at this as akin to what happened in Afghanistan. The admin was locked into a narrative that they wanted even if there was obvious evidence against it. What matters though is how they address it and so far I don’t fault them for the steps they are taking. Continuing to push vaccination including boosters. Making federal funds and aid available to overwhelmed States.
     
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    WTF is wrong with not anticipating it? Who anticipated it? I hope you're not an anti mask mandate guy.

    @Space Ghost

    What was she or the administration supposed to do about a variant that's not here? What is the issue? It's a virus not a dictator. Who knows what it's gonna do?
     
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    There is nothing to do till the variant appears.

    What mistakes did the administration make?
     
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    I mean if saying this is a scandal to you guys then they must be doing a great job because this is some serious nit picking… especially coming out of 4 years of Trump lying through his dentures every day.

    Everyone on the health side of the admin I’m sure anticipated more variants. On the political side maybe they hadn’t yet had a political strategy meeting about how to message for a variant on top of a variant this early but at least she’s being honest about that. On the health and science side though you really are just looking to be critical just to be critical if you think people like Dr. Fauci are surprised at another mutation.
     
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    Exactly.

    Plus, we had plenty of warnings of Delta (India) and Omicron (S.Afri). She might be speaking from a diff PoV, but how she said it can be interpreted as the admin wasn't prepared, which is factually wrong. I'm 100% sure the CDC knows about the risk of variants, and we saw that the admin often talks about these variants coming and taking action. That's where she is factually wrong along with being politically blind.
     
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    I think there's pretty much a growing consensus that the administration wasn't prepared. I think it's been amply documented that by June 2021 the administration sent signals to the effect that "this thing's been licked" and moved on to other (spending) priorities, all of which got derailed by the Afghanistan pullout and which really started Biden's slide in popularity.

    I really do think Biden thought he had covid under control, and these variants have been something of a wake-up call for him
     
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    revisionist history on your part; the RNC nominated the ultimate quitter from Alaska for the VP spot;
    and that's after she had said publicly that she can see Russia from her backyard, and that she was surprised to learn that there was a N and S Korea
     
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    I don't think that's the case. The summer was under control. No one wanted ongoing restrictions forever. Proceed with real-time information - when risk is down, restrictions should go down too, and vice-versa.

    Then Delta happens. That blew up everything. The variant risk was known to be very real, and the solution was very simple - get as many vaccinated as possible. The admin met and exceeded their initial goal and escalated that push when Delta was approaching, but eventually, the headwind of misinformation, disinformation, and Republican political position against mandated or "passport" to increase vaccination was too strong. The one thing I do criticize the admin is a lack of quick free testing for all - I think that would greatly help slow down spread.
     
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    $25-billion foreclosure settlement was a signature achievement for Kamala Harris


    In September 2011, Harris pulled California out of the nationwide mortgage settlement talks after a coalition of state attorneys general and federal agencies spent nearly a year trying to hammer out a deal with the nation’s five largest mortgage servicers: The banks were accused of using illicit tactics to wrongfully foreclose on homeowners.

    Harris made the decision to pull out of the talks after she met personally with representatives from the banks, saying that
    the deal they were offering would have provided just $2 billion to $4 billion to California. Harris has dismissed the deal as “crumbs on the table.”

    When the nationwide mortgage settlement was reached more than four months later, California had secured separate commitments from the three biggest mortgage servicers — Bank of America Corp., Wells Fargo & Co. and JPMorgan Chase & Co----close to $25 billion

    the $25 billion settlement for Calif makes other state AG look like dumb asses






     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I love how conservatives blame her for the politicization of the vaccine. Like where were they the last 2 years?
     
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    To add, while vaccination should have been the easy solution, there were also other activities that the public probably don't hear much about. Antiviral was also another push by the Biden admin with billions in investment there. We are almost there. EUA should be just around the corner for paxlovid (Europe just approved it for emergency use).
     
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    consider the source, ur silent when Orange hair said
    • COVID was a hoax created by China
    • ingesting cleaning solution to fight to virus
     
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