[The Week] Progressives are ready to edit the Constitution. Are conservatives ready to answer?

“Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms – they saw everything – to go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.”

donald trump - 2018

 

Endless opinion pieces, this one by a law professor in Miami. She got an opinion reply in The Week. Must have made her week!

 

A constitutional convention is the new “civil war is coming” for Repugs. (Accuse the other side of wanting to do what you really want to do in order to soften public stance on a topic they haven’t previously considered)

Democrats can’t be baited into debating this side show. As out of date as some areas of the constitution are, having a convention now in this polarized political environment would be terrible for this country and would play into the hands of the hard right. Just to start, the word “regulated” would be gone from the 2nd amendment.

What the left wants doesn’t come from changing our constitution because policies like universal healthcare aren’t necessarily constitutional structural elements. The right to vote is but there is NO WAY the Republicans would negotiate in good faith given how voting is something they are fundamentally fighting with every waking breathe.

leave the constitution the way it is. We shouldn’t negotiate with what now are essentially political terrorists. Sometimes even condoning violence to preserve their power. Hard no.

 

The left and their attack on the first amendment by forcing non religious students to say a pledge to a god they don't believe in or telling schools they can't teach certain curriculums because it hurts patriotic nationalist feefees or wanting to prosecute people for symbolic gestures like burning a flag or wanting to ban books with homosexual depictions from reading lists at schools or libraries.

Ya that left certainly hates free speech. That darn left.


Projection is the quintessential part of being a right wing American. Right @Os Trigonum

 

By "progressives", you mean one random editorial writer. Meanwhile, from last week...

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...repare-new-push-for-constitutional-convention

Conservatives prepare new push for constitutional convention

SAN DIEGO — Conservative lawmakers will mount a new push to call a constitutional convention aimed at creating a balanced budget amendment and establishing term limits for members of Congress in an effort to rein in what they see as a runaway federal government.

State legislators meeting at the American Legislative Exchange Council’s policy conference here last week hope to use Article V of the Constitution, which allows state legislatures to call a convention to propose new amendments.

“It’s really the last line of defense that we have. Right now, the federal government’s run away. They’re not going to pull their own power back. They’re not going to restrict themselves. And so this Article V convention is really, in my opinion, is the last option that we have,” said Iowa state Rep. John Wills (R), the state’s House Speaker pro tempore who backs the convention.

At least two-thirds of states must pass a call to force a convention; so far, 15 states have passed the model legislation proposed by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a conservative group that backs free markets and states’ rights.

Bills have passed at least one legislative chamber in another nine states, and bills have been introduced in 17 more states. The 15 states that have passed measures so far all have Republican-controlled legislatures and Republican governors; another nine states totally controlled by the GOP have yet to finalize passage, according to Convention of States Action, a project of the conservative group Citizens for Self-Governance.

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From 1869:

The Constitution has no inherent authority or obligation. It has no authority or obligation at all, unless as a contract between man and man. And it does not so much as even purport to be a contract between persons now existing. It purports, at most, to be only a contract between persons living eighty years ago.

Read more:

http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2194/Spooner_1485_Bk.pdf

 

I can see some play on it as scrotus is tightly controlled but the real battlefront has always been lifetime judicial appointees (and state government control)

No Constitutional "Revision" will end it nor will it give any side a permanent upperhand.

Dems and libs should up their game on holding time. It took Cons long cons from the 70s to see the fruits of the labor.

 

Lol at that manipulative headline.

"Edit" the constitution.

Like they're changing a drunken Facebook post or something.

Gotta rile up the base somehow I suppose.

 

The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal constitution editor. They are true bastards.

 

Exactly. That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the headline. Conservatives have been pushing for years to “edit” the Constitution. Particular targeting the 14 Amendment.

 

Except Dems aren’t really talking about this… at least from what I see which is a lot as someone who consumes a good deal of left leaning media and gets emails asking for donations from the DNC.

This is just another example of projection strategy like with the Civil War narrative strategy. Accuse the other side of something they aren’t doing that your side has fantasies about doing themselves. It softens the idea in the general public and starts debate. They’ve been doing this since McCarthy and Roy Cohn so it’s nothing new.

Any Liberal with half sense of political knowledge will tell you that a constitutional convention is bad news for progressive ideals, freedoms, and human rights. You also cannot do a convention with bad actors. You have to only do one in a time of great unity like from the fallout of a major war, depression, etc. where the government collapsed and everyone is in it together to rebuild with consensus across the board. Doing this would be stupid and basically every liberal I know believes this and never brings it up.

Don’t take the bait in letting them make you believe something they fantasize about is something the other side fantasizes about when they really don’t…. please.

 

I have to assume at this point those guys are idols to someone like OS.

 

Yes but if a law professor in Miami suggests edits, oh boy, it's time to get those blogs written and talk about what those radical liberals are up to!

 

Haha. Where do you find this sh$t?? Especially for someone who brags about your anti technology lifestyle to give yourself a claim of ignorance on anything that’ll give a negative representation of the right.

Not sure how you do it Os. Kudos on the steady stream of troll.