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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. mikol13

    mikol13 Protector of the Realm
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    Yeah the rise in positive Covid cases in all of sports seems to be pretty staggering.
     
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    pretty sure that's the daily litany, no?
     
  3. durvasa

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    We see individual stories, but I'd be looking for estimates of reduction in lives lost as a function of increasing vaccination rates.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    I guess there are possible explanations:
    • Omicron variant and increased communicability
    • Slow action on getting boosters
    • Lax team adherence to masking, social distancing during practices, team travel, and while players are not doing team activities
    • Increased fan attendance, with or more likely without masks and social distancing
    • Added: Players attending Thanksgiving get-togethers.
     
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  5. Amiga

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    I would bet on Omicron. Near zero protection against infection w/o the 3rd shot.
     
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    Covid is picking up but also some other ones RSV, rhinovirus, metapneumovirus, all the flu types. My daughter had flu A and we managed to keep everyone else safe in a house of 5.
     
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  8. Amiga

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    The CDC data for suicide are in. The concerns were lockdown, covid impact on mental health, and suicides. Lockdown significantly decreases the rate. Overall, for the whole year (Mar 2020 - Feb 2021), there were no changes.

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  9. Amiga

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    Worst case scenario is hospitals being overwhelmed, again.

    Some pharmaceutical executives and Fauci said NO to omicron-specific vaccine. Perhaps they have enough 5G in everyone so no need to push again.

    Omicron spreading rapidly in U.S., infections could peak in January, CDC warns - The Washington Post

    Top federal health officials warned in a briefing Tuesday morning that the omicron variant is rapidly spreading in the United States and could peak in a massive wave of infections as soon as January, according to new modeling analyzed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    The prevalence of omicron jumped sevenfold in a single week, according to the CDC, and at such a pace, the highly mutated variant of the coronavirus could ratchet up pressure on a health system already strained in many places as the delta variant continues its own surge.

    The warning of an imminent surge came even as federal officials and some pharmaceutical executives signaled that they don’t currently favor creating an omicron-specific vaccine. Based on the data so far, they say that existing vaccines plus a booster shot are an effective weapon against omicron.

    The CDC briefing Tuesday detailed two scenarios for how the omicron variant may spread through the country. The worst-case scenario has spooked top health officials, who fear that a fresh wave, layered on top of delta and influenza cases in what one described as “a triple whammy,” could overwhelm health systems and devastate communities, particularly those with low vaccination rates.

    “I’m a lot more alarmed. I’m worried,” said Marcus Plescia, chief medical officer for the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, who participated in the call. The CDC, normally cautious in its messaging, told the public health officials that “we got to get people ready for this,” he said.

    He noted that the omicron surge, if it materializes as forecast, would be taking place as delta continues its onslaught and during the time of year when influenza cases often peak.

    Officials stress that early data shows that individuals who are fully vaccinated and received a booster shot remain largely protected against severe illness and death from omicron. But they worry about how few Americans have been boosted to date. Over 55 million people in the United States have gotten the additional shots, out of 200 million who are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

    The newest modeling scenarios have been shared among senior administration officials as they discuss politically fraught decisions about how, when and whether to take new steps to suppress the virus and keep hospitals from being overwhelmed.

    The second scenario outlines a smaller omicron surge in the spring. It’s unclear which scenario is more likely. The modeling was done by experts tapped by CDC Director Rochelle Walensky in August to deliver real-time outbreak forecasting and analytics. The experts work with other teams inside and outside the government.

    “They’re considering the information at the highest levels right now, and thinking through how to get the public to understand what the scenarios mean,” said one federal health official familiar with the briefing. “It looks daunting.”

    “The implications of a big wave in January that could swamp hospitals … we need to take that potential seriously,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss policy deliberations.

    Late Tuesday, after this story was published online, the CDC released a statement saying the morning discussion was part of a regularly scheduled meeting, hosted by the agency, with leaders of four public health organizations. “As we are preparing for a range of scenarios with the Omicron variant, a portion of the meeting was dedicated to discussion around results from various modeling groups related to Omicron—no CDC, HHS or U.S. Government models were presented,” the statement said.

    The CDC’s analysis is consistent with that of several academic groups in the United States and with data from the United Kingdom, Denmark and Norway. New restrictions have already been imposed in the United Kingdom and other countries in Europe that were seeded with omicron earlier.

    The Biden administration’s strategy relies heavily on vaccination and testing. When President Biden announced his “action plan” on Dec. 2 for fighting the virus this winter, he noted “it doesn’t include shutdowns or lockdowns but widespread vaccinations and boosters and testing and a lot more.”

    A reformulated vaccine that’s omicron-specific is not currently planned as part of that toolbox, said senior administration health officials and experts at vaccine companies, adding there is no evidence a vaccine design switch is necessary.

    They cited data that suggests the original vaccines, coupled with a booster shot, provide protection against severe illness caused by omicron. So far, they noted, the vaccines have successfully countered every variant. That view could change in the next two weeks as more data comes in involving laboratory tests and the spread of omicron.

    Switching the vaccines has sweeping implications. If they are changed too early, that limits the ability to deal with another variant down the road — one that might be more dangerous than omicron.

    “We have to be careful not to repeat mistakes of the past,” said one administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk about the issue. “If there is a change needed, we want to make it, but we don’t want to end up making a change if we don’t really need it. It costs time, money and effort.”


    Experts say it’s impossible to keep changing the vaccines or giving different boosters because there is not enough manufacturing capacity and other resources.

    Anthony S. Fauci, Biden’s chief medical adviser on the coronavirus response, said in an interview Monday that “there isn’t any compelling reason right now to drop everything and make an omicron-specific vaccine, as opposed to continue to administer vaccine for people who are unvaccinated and boosting people who are vaccinated.”

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    It's tearing through leagues like the English Premier League as well. Games have been canceled lately. Thanksgiving can't exactly be blamed there...but the rest certainly could.
     
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  12. Rashmon

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    Not sure about the usual suspects here but I have no problem taking a booster every 6 months if it keeps me and my family alive and out of the hospital.
     
  13. tinman

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    For Pro Athletes?

    I'm betting they all got J and J or not any vaccine
    I don't think it was Omnicron
    it was Omnia

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    Didn't watch video, but surely they were arrested for being in NYC and trying to eat at an Applebees. Sadly, prison food will be like a reward for bad behavior.
     
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  17. SamFisher

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    Im not saying Hospital beds should be prioritized for the vaccinated.

    But they should definitely be prioritized for the vaccinated at this point.
     
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  18. bobrek

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    As usual, there is more to the story than folks trying to "eat at Applebee's", but why should we expect anything completely accurate from you?
     
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    Yep. That's the reason they were arrested. So crazy that the standard operating procedure for law enforcement is to arrest people for trying to eat without proof of vaccination.

    What they should have been arrested for was eating at Applebee's. That's close to a capital offense. That place is as bad as it gets. Worse than Olive Garden, Or anything.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Basically, that's already been the case in LA. It's only in the surrounding counties that it is a new requirement.
     

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