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2 games out of the Play-in Tournament

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Dec 13, 2021.

  1. DaDakota

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    HOOOORAHHHHH !!!!!

    DD
     
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    Ok, but what happens if Green and KP come back, fit right in to the new offense and play well and then we overachieve to the point we're somewhat competitive? You think the better option would be to deliberately throw games, stifle the competitiveness of our players and suck for a draft pick? Do you even realise that if we were somehow able to be competitive with a team full of rookies, sophomores and rejects then we might already have the pieces and that once they've developed we'll be in that great position without needing another top pick?
     
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  3. daywalker02

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    You show no patience, what is the problem with making the Play In next year or 2 years later?

    Do you got a terminal illness, do not wish it upon you....

    You can always compete later, it is not like we have to do something either way.

    Flexibility. I can also give up on Banchero, Jabari Smith and go with a trade target.

    But are you that flexible when the team decides to go for Banchero?
     
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  4. DaDakota

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    Why not try this year? We have 4 rookies, we don't need MORE young players......and we have a number 2 pick already developing. And a 21 year old we have to make a decision on.....

    Let them play, let them play to win - the top of the lottery is no guarantee - so many drafted lower in the lottery or after the lottery......let's develop a winning fight to the end spirit.

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    To be honest, busts and gems are both not the norm.

    The norm is a role player, a super role player, a 3 and D or a borderline Allstar.
     
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    You didn't get the gist of what the convo with him was.

    He wanted to advocate for the Play In.

    The Play In per se is just a commercial tool, nothing more or less.

    If your young players make the regular Playoffs, so be it, I am all for it. Not some Ego, not some DJ.

    (I do not have the authority to stop them from playing, silly.)
     
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  7. JayGoogle

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    I'm just laughing at this post because there's a lot of truth here. So many people were hype hype about Green, that he'd come in and take over and look like this star player from Day 1 and now so many people have already given up on him. Some of the board members really believed in 'Next Kobe' hype...

    This is tanking in a picture...

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    Play with your new toy for a year, get bored of it, hype up the next player...move on! But hey, maybe you get lucky and draft the next Lebron...good luck though, these guys come what...once every decade? If not more?
     
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    Once Gordon is traded, we will likely lose a lot more of these close games, he hit so many timely baskets during our recent run and plays great defense too.
     
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    I see it the same way.

    As we are built now, we're not keeping this up and are on pace to draft top 5 anyways (if the lottery lets us...) but if we do make the play-in it will likely be because KPJ or Green comes back (or both) and plays well. If so, why worry about making the play-in?

    If they come back and play terribly? Then we draft high again. Like we don't have to force it.

    If yall want to force it and watch more Theis-Wood games...
     
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    Just crazy…. Sengun may not need an elite front court player but the TEAM does. The team needs more talent. The team needs an elite creator.

    It’s not just about drafting players…. It’s about accumulating assets that we can either develop or trade. Higher drafts picks net better players than lower draft picks, yes or no?
     
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    The term tanking is used too frequently and not in the right context.

    Tanking has some negative connotation to it.

    If you rebuild and use Green and KPJ for development, you might lose some but it ain't necessarily tanking.

    The problem is not tanking, it is to find the right mix of minutes for the youngins and lessen minutes for the veterans.
     
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    Right, the norm is just an average player. That's the norm. So this idea that you are going to draft an elite player even in the top 5 needs to stop.

    It's more likely you're just adding another solid starter for your team. Which is nice...but you can add solid starters in many ways. You don't have to force it.
     
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    Nothing like some wins to get the delusions flowing.
     
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    I think he wants to shoot for trades and FA only but it is a risk.
     
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    Everything requires a bit of luck… let’s not pretend your method doesn’t rely on luck either.

    The difference is we literally lost our superstar last season and instead of rebuilding, some of y’all want to retool because you think we have the talent currently.
     
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    But you're doing it again, you're saying I'm agitated, I'm not.

    Also, that's the point of not tanking, becoming a destination where players would want to come to play for. No one wants to join the worst team in the league...but a young team that made it to the playoffs? Different story.

    But all these people that want to tank then let's just play Theis and Wood, let's just play Theis 30 minutes every night, right? I mean this is what's being advocated, we know what loses games here...
     
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    It’s all a risk… but rebuilding gives us a chance at the high draft picks, trades, and FA.

    3 > 2
     
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    Nothing has to stop lol. Do not go to extremes.

    The odds of getting an Allstar out of the Top 5 is still accounted for at 33-40%.

    If you are the GM, you just use every channel, every possibility to accumulate assets.

    Draft is just a natural option to get young players on rookie contracts.
     
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    Because we aren’t that good. Are we keeping Gordon and Augustine?
     
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    Now the team needs an elite front-court player along with Sengun?

    Banchero, Chet, Jalen, these are elite front court players then?
     

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