The late 90s were beautiful brother These dumb drake listening suckers have no idea also people now were not so stupid and easily manipulated back then And they were extremely creative and independent thinking Not a coincidence the great minds back then turned out Amazon and Tesla and Apple And Clutchfans @basso
A bad day for an LEO could mean a dead civilian.. Yes LEO make mistakes and are humans. They also carry lethal force too and are empowered by the law to take people into custody with force if necessary. This isn't the same as me having a bad day if a client is giving me a hard time about my project. The issue with the MPD wasn't just an internal problem as there was plenty of evidence of racial bias by MPD. Chauvin himself already had a history of bias complaints and he was far from alone in the department. Chief Arradando was promoted specifically to address these issues. You've made several absolutist statements that aren't even supported by the facts that you have stated. You acknowledge that there is a pattern of disproportionate treatment by LE yet continue to claim that those are only an individual cases. This is the problem with this debate that it's too often driven by binary thinking. One side is arguing that LEO in general are the problem and as such increases in crime are ignored or downplayed. The other side says that LEO aren't a problem and that crime is the only problem. Both can actually be true. There are some longstanding problems with LE regarding bias but at the sametime we are seeing a sharp rise in crime in many places as the number of LEO are being reduced. The answer shouldn't be we simply get rid of or neuter LE but neither is it we just ignore bias and abuse in LE.
it is amazing, yet unsurprising, to me that this is not easily understood by everyone and anyone. All you have to do is sit down, have a glass of water, and be honest. Yet that’s at least one bridge too far for some.
3 things here 1. So the dumb excuse is that the SFPD officers have guns. Well, I don't what fairytale world these people live in, but all officers have guns. 2. what about criminals or citizens? what happens if they bring guns to their restaurant? How are you going to enforce this or kick them? call the cops? the cops have guns 3. given the ramped up crime spree, this is really bad publicity. @Reeko @Os Trigonum
IF you cowtow and kiss the cops asses. . . maybe you can survive the encounters Remember. . . .in order to raise Cops Moral .. .all you have to do is give up all your rights and dignity and do what ever they say and never question authority Rocket River
So you agree. Your solution is to cowtow and kiss ass. To simply get on your knees and beg for mercy Now I understand you a little bit more "Show them your papers, smile broadly and be submissive. . . .and maybe they will forget you are Jewish" -Collaborators in the 30s and 40s in Germany Rocket River
On bad days I referring to complaints about officers being assholes. A lot of criticism is driven by a negative interaction with cops about their attitude As far as my absolutist statements that aren't, where is your backup. I have posted raw numbers on how many times cops have interactions with civilians as it relates to how many times a situation goes very badly
Your absolutist statements are that there is no pattern of bias. You already stated that blacks are disproportionately stopped by LE and disproportionately are killed by LE. Those items are evidence that there is a pattern of bias.
There is not a pattern. One incident every 200,000 encounters is not a pattern. I don't know exact numbers but given there are 41 million traffic stops a year alone a violent encounter is less than 1 every 200,000
How can pgabs still get a thread to go this long rehashing arguments he has made in multiple other threads. How does anybody still take the bait?
Yeah you've got a good point. The evidence about a problems of bias is out there, has been even posted in this thread and acknowledged yet continues to ignore the issue. As stated yes the vast majority of LEO civilian interactions happen without incident. That doesn't mean there isn't a pattern of bias. The vast majority of automobile trips don't result in a drunk driving arrest but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem with drunk driving given the stakes of what can go wrong with both drunk driving and LEO acting improperly.
By dick riders like you still bumping them. I don't go into threads I claim to have no interest in or worse threads I claim no one should have interest in. That says something about you
Why don’t we just use drones ? Can people accuse drones of racism? Also I would equip drones with lethal laser guided firearms
Wow internet is dumb Got the anti police restaurant confused with another restaurant So this innocent restaurant got collateral damage From the anti cop restaurant @ROXRAN
One More THing Probably the biggest and most responsible for Police Morale is Policemen themselves The advent of Cameras and later body cams . . .have made the reputation of Police take a major hit For years they did vile and evil **** and people just believed them when they said they did not do it THOSE CRIMINALS JUST MAKING **** UP!!! . . THEY'RE CRIMINALS .. . WHY BELIEVE THEM OVER RESPECTABLE OFFICERS Rodney King happens . . .and for the First time John Q Public (Suburbanites) started thinking hhhmmmm . . .. Maybe The Criminals are right sometimes and maybe Cops DO LIE and do unrespectable things Nowadays You have Youtube rabbit holes that go MILES with cops acting badly The Cops doesn't get to beat a suspect into a coma on Monday and show up on Tuesday to MEET A COP day and smile for the kids Now the kids seen that beating on Youtube . . .and they weary of that Uniform and Badge Rocket River
