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[Calm Down] Rockets Longest Active Winning Streak in the League! Six in a Row!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shaq2Yao, Dec 5, 2021.

  1. daywalker02

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    We already have a picture of how good and bad he can be.

    Right now he looks like a Chris Bosh lite.

    He is a 25 and 10 player, very simple, with average to slightly above handles, a good outside shot around 34-37% I would say.

    He can improve in facilitating I am sure.

    He makes mental errors and is built like a beanstalk.

    Right now he is on his way to be a sure Allstar if he keeps this up.

    But he is not strong physically, to be a No 1 of a contender you have to lead people, that is not his strong suit.

    Eric Gordon has been a better leader than Wood but I am not going to list his weaknesses.

    And Gary Bird has been the better shooter.

    Tate has been the better dude for intangibles and bodying up.
     
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  2. JayGoogle

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    I do agree with taht too...

    People around here seem to think the draft is some magical thing where you pick up players and oh if you just draft in the top 5 for 3 years in a row you'll have 3 superstars!!!! Yeah...doesn't work that way. People talk so highly of the 6ers and their process when they literally have one player to show for it now (Embiid) and the teams that draft multiple superstars are rare. It's possible, but these teams also weren't drafting top 5 all the time they were just picking well whenever they drafted.

    You know my feelings towards tanking. I think most teams are built around one or two guys you drafted...now people around here, if you remember (I know you do) told me Green was that GUY. Green was that Kobe...superstar...already we're done with him and looking at these other guys.

    People talk about the mediocrity treadmill, that's true, but you know what? that treadmill is easy to get off of. It's easy to blow up your team and get to the bottom.

    The draft treadmill is a lot harder to get out of though because you start to depend on it and unless you have some draft guru that hits on most of his picks, you'll be stuck there. Forced to draft a generational guy to pull you out of it.
     
  3. Tuckankhamun

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    Considering the Rockets success that came through shamelessly tanking to get Sampson and Hakeem, I'm shocked to see even 1/5th of the users here begging for an 8 seed over a top 3 pick.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Well, the fans are going to think however but I bet for Silas and the players playoffs is the goal.

    Tanking is too focused on assets and not enough on building a team, which isn't about just collecting as many assets as possible but fitting them into a team that makes sense and that could grow together with a coach. People want to build a dynasty, it's not easy, there is no quick and easy "Well, you just lose a few years and there you have it!" If that were the case, every NBA franchise would have one.

    Also, if Wall's contract wasn't tied to an actual person that wants to play, it would be no issue, because as you say, we're not winning anytime soon so why does it matter? Who are we going to sign with it? At some point his contract becomes a large expiring deal that's going to give you cap relief if you time it just right. But the problem is he's Wall, he's going to want to play and he might cause issues. Hasn't yet (as far as I know) but he might.
     
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  5. rpr52121

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    Many people don't want to deal with the lulls that it takes to build a title team.

    I mean most fanbases have a large group like that, because they want something to cheer for and feel good about. I get it. It's hard to invest time, money, energy, and emotion and it have it feel wasted.

    Nothing wrong with it, just different priorities and motivations.
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    I don't think we've seen how good or bad he can be total. Skill wise yes, he's not going to add elite skills at this point...but mentality wise no. I think he's still very much figuring things out about how to be a team player and how to win games for his team. We see at times when he was extremely selfish, as of late though, he's been very selfless, still needs to set better picks, but he's not so deadset on trying to do everything and just playing within the flow of the game. When he does that, he's pretty damn good. This is the age players enter their prime because mentally they put things together.
     
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    My concern is spontaneous synchronicity. Scientifically, the Toyota center is now in structural danger. We need to stop it.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    Remember him on the Thunder or the old Detroit teams.

    Things could have been way worse for his stats.

    You could tell me that Jalen Green could be way better than he is now but yes, Wood is not going to be way better.

    I won't call it selfless, he is just enjoying winning games now, enjoying it while it lasts as we fans do.

    It is called a run when everything is clicking.

    When Mathews is scoring 25 or Tate is scoring 32, you know the whole team is clicking.
     
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    We don't have a bunch of veterans. Our rotation right now consist mainly of undrafted players, and some players we got before Harden left. Before that we were force feeding tons of minutes to Green and KPJ who are clearly not ready for their roles in the NBA. If that's not actively tanking, I don't know what is.

    It's just happens that Tate and Matthew are ballers, and Wood is going back to his normal self, and we won some games against really bad teams.
     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    That's the thing with Wood, he's not ordinary. Nothing about him is usual in fact. His career trajectory is not usual so I wouldn't use usual trajectories with him.

    Realistically, he shouldn't be this. Undrafted guy that failed multiple times shouldn't be leading an NBA team in nothing at all. The fact that he is here does show some drive to get better. It speaks of his maturity at least

    I just don't think the option to move him gets easy if the team keeps winning. If the team loses, it's easy...but if they keep this up it becomes a pretty hard option. You won't find many guys his size with that offensive skillset.
     
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  11. daywalker02

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    Dude, he is who he is, Silas and the Rockets are freeing him up. The Hakeem era is over, he was no 3 pt shooter.

    The Rockets have always been amazing under MDA with a brilliant Offense, they were always primed for a big run.

    Now it is happening without a clear superstar and SIlas as a MDA wannabe.

    We have seen it times and times again.

    It did not happen earlier because Theis was in the lineup, Green and KPJ were bricking hard.

    Does he have room for improvements? Of course.
     
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    Forced to draft a generational guy to pull you out of it. Literally describe every nba championship team recipe right there, sht for years or sht in general then drafted a generational guy to pull them out of it.

    Lakers (kobe, shaq)
    spurs (Duncan)
    Warriors (curry, klay, green)
    Heats (wade)
    Celtics (pierce)
    Rockets (hakeem)
    bucks (giannis = he was drafted not in the lottery, but a generational guy)
    Mavs (Dirk)

    a lot of folks are saying green isn't the guy, and if he isn't we should keep being in the lower echelon looking for one.

    Also do u think Green is the savior we looking for?
     
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    I do not think his post play is elite though.

    When his 3 pointer is going in, he seems to be have more confidence in other areas of the game and it goes in as well.

    But live and die with 3 point shooting.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Well yeah, that's all I've been saying. He can imrpove. He's not going to add elite skills but mentality is a huge part of the game, in fact half of it is that at the most.
     
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    Considering you need a generational talent to win a title in the first place, then its worth it.

    Its very easy to move down the treadmill, its very hard to move up. Its even harder to win a title.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    I mean your post proves the point that teams are built around one or two guys they drafted. Guys like Shaq were traded for. Wade won thanks to additions to his team, same with pierce...and also that generational players don't have to come from the top 5.

    I don't know if Green is that guy, but the Rockets are built in a way that he doesn't have to be that guy as they've been winning without him.

    I'm saying that before the draft I was told he was THAT guy. I was told he was a superstar and NBA ready. I was told all of this as I supported drafted Mobley...so yeah...but now I'm being told it's Bancero...what if he's a complete bust?
     
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    No my point is that those championship team have a generational talent by being sht and built around it. U need at least one to win it all, hell u seem to agree with this notion in a way (teams are built around one or two guys they drafted)


    if u don't know if Green is that guy, but the Rockets are built in a way that he doesn't have to be that guy as they've been winning without him. Y do u want us to go into playoff then if we don't have a generational talent?


    All i want is for us to draft in the lottery until we find the one. Rather it's via tanking or just not being good enough. The odds of finding a HoF talent is so much greater in the lottery, nba history has shown this. AFter we find one, u build around him
     
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    My point is two fold.

    Generational guys don't have to be tanked for is one. They can come from anywhere. They can be 2nd round picks, 15th pick, whatever.

    But also I don't think it makes sense trying to lose games. I think you put the best team out there you can and roll with it. I think this is what most teams are doing now outside of teams like OKC whose best team is still terrible.

    Winning can also get you assets. Like I said, if we keep winning and are in that 7-10 race by trade deadline Wood and Ego will have tremendous value that we can flip for assets...even more high draft picks. It doesn't have to be tank or bust.

    Too many people seem to have this attitude that if we aren't drafting top 3 then we are doing something wrong.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Special player but shouldn't lose sleep over his situation, should be his tag.

    I get the mentality part but the Hakeem example is growing old, let's just go with the Greek Freak or someone else.
     
  20. wlekfjv923n

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    Great point but the difference is we had Harden. Do we have a Harden right now? Well... I guess we do actually. SO WE HAPPY WE GOT AL-PEE SO HAPPY
     

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