For every Suns (and that is debatable) how many Sacremento, New Orleans, Detroit, NY Knicks are there? DD
The funny thing is you know that he will flip flop once a losing streak is happening. Or injuries piling up. It is just too predictable.
The thing, now the leading players are undrafted players who are 24-26. Like Tate, like Mathews, like Wood at times, like Armoni Brooks, those who lead the 5 Out Spacing. Gordon 32. But how long is that going to last, gotta think long term as well. Most of them non rookies are not young.
i am rewatching the last night game and the team is sooo fun to watch when they play to win...and almost all players are exciting because they play good and have a a lot of room to grow mathews plays like crazy...can he keep it up and can he expand his role? tate...all around talent, the hustler and beast in the paint, will he emerge to become our leader? green superstar flashes sengun words cant describe what kind of magic player he is KPJ what kind of PG he will become Wood a special player, capela with a 3pt shot...few of such players are in the league now KJM good young player with a fanstastic potential EGO having his career high numbers right now etc etc SOOOOOOO MUCH FUN!!!!!!!
For every team that has won a championship in a 5 year span, how many don't? Winning is hard and there isn't 1 single way to do it. Probably the 2 closest things to "poster child" of building a winning team we've seen over the last 2 decades are the Duncan Spurs and the Curry Warriors? I don't know... Lakers with Shaq/Kobe? Miami with Lebron/Wade/Bosh?
The goal should be a Place under the Top 5. Top 5 seed. Play In shouldn't count as major goal, they are attempting to be ridiculous.
Why should I address your points when you ignore anything I say? Highly disingenuous argument you're making, let's try again. List the number of teams who threw games that're more successful than teams who played the right way? I'll wait.
I am ok with that, but if there are better players on the bench, I want the young guys to have to EARN it.......they can come in off the bench and if they want to start, they need to work to improve. DD
There are couple Evan Mobley or better prospects in the next draft. Just let that sound ring in your ear, lol. Spoiler I wouldn't go for Chet though, too much hype again. Twig frame. Go for the solid ones with upside.
Like I posted earlier. If they made it to the play in, they would have to be at least the 3rd best team the rest of the way. That means they would be good enough to have a chance to beat the first seed. That also probably means that something will be working really well, the Green-Porter back court, or the Wood-Sengun front court, or both. I don't think they can do that. So I'm not really worried about it. But this thread is a hypothetical question. Which one would you prefer they could accomplish? A play in berth (a very good team the rest of the way) or a chance of a top pick? I'd want us to be a very good team sooner than waiting for an unknown next draft. But I'd be cool if we're bad enough to get a high pick. This is what I predict. If we keep the current roster more or less intact, we don't look like we will be the worst team like last season. We are competing with at least four or five other really bad teams. But if we get rid of Eric Gordon and/or Wood, then we will have a chance to be really bad.
I addressed your points (teaching them to play hard, Kings) brought objective evidence, facts, and historical data to support my argument. As well as asked you a question for your long term plan for multiple years beyond this one to win a title? Does this core have enough talent to win a chip or need more? Can we win even more games and teach those play hard, fight to win values with a superstar? You just admitted you didn't address my points or answer any of my questions with evidence or substance backing your arguments. Ignoring the historical facts and not addressing the data doesn't make it go away. I already gave you an example of a bad team and others drafting a superstar to win long term with a top pick, the Spurs losing season before drafting Duncan to win a chip. Also an example of a treadmill team, win every game with no superstar or top draft pick in the current five year Spurs records with Derozan and Aldridge. I brought logical evidence without insults, you answered a question with a question. The burden is on you to back your arguments with real substance and without insults (ad hominem), subjective opinon/feelings or strawman arguments. Besides your personal feelings and subjective opinon, can you counter those facts, objective numbers and historical data? What is your long term multi year plan? We can agree to disagree for what will get the Rockets a ring long term, just wanted to flesh out the debate for others to see. I'll be moving on, none of this is personal just debating ideas.
Just stop with these Suns, man, you're embarrassing yourself! Their best player was acquired via trade. Their second best player was drafted #13 after a mediocre 39-43 season For all their tanking they got Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Culver - all busts (plus Ayton, who's only their 3rd best player)... Suns are prime anti-tanking example!
They were sht for years, bottom of the west 3 years a row(2016-2019). U sir do not know what tanking is.... look it up b4 sprouting nonsense.
... and got nothing of consequence, other than Ayton (#3 option) from these high picks. Look it up. Dragan Bender, Josh Jackson and Culver! Booker was 2015
Trade the vets play all the young guys heavy minutes and if you make the play in like that you dont need a top pick because youve successfully rebuilt the team. If they dont win its ok they are developing. People confuse tanking and rebuilding on this board a bit too much. Making the play-in with players that wont be on the team in a couple of years is just spinning your wheels.
