pgab deflecting, in a desperate attempt to divert attention away from his parroting of convenient lies
It all starts from better quality recruits. Also, for urban minority communities there should be an ideological threshold to bar recruits from joining such as social media history talking about the ills of black culture or framing them as wellfare queens etc. Too many cops in America have these hyper partisan cultural views that effect their policing.
Bro I responded and did his job looking up these studies and addressed them. Keep up and stop being distracted looking for Ivanka updates
Dude I have other things to do than be your research b****. I stand by my statements and if you need proof of studies, google is your friend geez.
I'll never understand why I have to tell lol seemingly intelligent posters that if you Maya claim it's your job to back it up. Secondly the studies I see rely on traffic stops data. I'll concede they are a problem nut the media shouldn't conflate traffic stops and George Floyd. All questionable police killings are that officer's issue. Its not a systemic problem
The underlying problem is not individual officers - that will always exist as long as there are racists in society. The larger problem - and reason for mistrust of police - is the number of times that fellow officers and the police departments themselves cover for and support the racists. As long as that happens, there's good reason for distrust of the system. A good example of this, besides the Arbery case where the DA and police helped cover things up until the video showed up, is what happened to the Toronto GM in Oakland a few years ago. The offduty cop sued the GM for assault - until video surfaced. That was bad. But what was worse was that the Oakland PD had the video and still allowed a many months long investigation and, even AFTER the video surfaced, continued to defend the offduty cop. The entire department was complicit in this and no one stood up for the truth - even in a high profile case where the video was available to the public for everyone to see the truth. It's not an individual problem - it's an institutional problem.
I backed it up already. There is more than traffic data. If you don't think police departments are racist, no study I put forward no matter how convincing will convince you - you will rationalize it away so what's the point? It's useless to debate with you because you never admit to being wrong and instead just call people stupid, arrogant, or both. So in the spirt of the Industrialist de Mexico Good Day!
pgabs just wants attention and he keeps saying things that he knows will get a rise out on somebody. You see how he keeps posting the same rhetoric in his own thread I did not think he could be any sadder, but alas he is getting worse.
You haven't backed it up. Instead of responding and talking **** just post t. Whatever you say you can't deny I'm responding to your claims. If you post data I'll read and respond When you tell me what i actually meant in a post after I told you what I meant in a post that's arrogant. It's arrogant to tell someone they they meant after they take time to further explain what they said. If you don't understand that then that is a problem with your character as a human being. You say I don't admit to being wrong in a post responding to a post in which I concede that their is a profiling issue in traffic stops
That's a pretty loaded statement can you back that up? First off consider that most LE encounters are from traffic stops so that Black males might be getting disproportionately stopped does point to a problem. Next George Floyd was technically a traffic stop as he was in his car. That said the reason for arresting Floyd was a relatively minor offense and not a violent crime. As far as it not being systemic both Derek Chauvin and the MPD had a history of complaints against them regarding racial bias. In fact the current Chief, Medaria Arradando, had sued the department when he was a rank and file LEO along with other minority LEO's. That suit was settled in 2009. Arradando was named to Police Chief to address what had been longstanding complaints regarding MPD. MPD is just one PD but there have been several other departments that have had systemic problems with Baltimore PD being completely reorganized following the death of Freddie Gray in 2016 and what was shown to be repeated pattern of bias in treatment of black residents.
Traffic stops don't lead to police brutality unless someone is being arrested. Police shootings are rare. About 300 whites are fatally shot annually and about 150 blacks. The amount of blacks is disproportionate but not so when factoring how many times law enforcement encounter blacks in negative situations I have never feared police officers. I have been arrested and been in county jail. I think it's ridiculous for other black.en to say they fear something bad when being pulled over. I think the media accept this from black men as an unquestioned reality in an attempt to be woke
The problem of young black males and crime isn't a police problem. It's a young black men problem The media is starting to confuse this
Law enforcement morale is a real problem. The issue revolves around race. It's been mentioned in several threads but there hasn't been a thread about it
Not sure what the point of this is. Yes but it would be hard for an LEO to arrest a motorist without stopping them and getting them out of their car. Also there have been plenty of incidences of police brutality before someone is arrested. Don't you think that if LE stops and shoots blacks disproportionately that would explain why there would be far more negative situations? That would be like if I was a health inspector and said that "Italian restaurants have far more health code violations than other restaurants" and I disproportionately inspect Italian restaurants far more than I do other restaurants. That's good for you but you're generalizing from your own experience. You already acknowledge that blacks disproportionately get stopped more and also get killed more by LE than what their population represents. That right there indicates that in any given encounter with LE a black person might have more reason to fear than someone of another race. Further none of this addresses that in many PDs including as stated MPD and BPD there have been established patterns of bias in policing.
[edit] responded to the wrong post am corrected the right pgabriel post I was responding to This is a pretty loaded statement that you're making with little evidence. Have you considered it could be both? That yes there is a problem with crime among young black men but that also that there are long standing problems of bias and unequal policing among many PDs. You acknowledge already that there are disproportionate stops of black men by LEO along with a disproportionate number killed by LEO yet you dismiss that even though that shows pretty strong evidence of a pattern of unequal treatment by LE.
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