Delusional high school kids mad that Dave Chappelle is more successful than them

I thought he promised not to say anything about the trans community at all? Now it's just publically? He's still using these jokes in stand-ups in front of crowds and even, according to that report, joking about the promise he made.

There is nothing to address there, their list of demands explains what that meant and it had nothing to do with taking his show off of Netflix.

I mean...good for you? But you seemed to agree that you as a non-trans person shouldn't be speaking for trans people. Trans people clearly feel like it was transphobic, does that just not matter anymore?

 

I mean lets get something straight at least, that story was told for comedic purposes and not true.

according to that case Dababy killed someone in self-defense, it was even all on camera, that's why he wasn't charged with murder and that's why he wasn't canceled for that. Because some people tried to rob him and he was with his daughter and he pulled out a legally concealed firearm and shot at the people that were trying to rob him. If he had really killed people in broad daylight in a walmart he'd be in prison.

 

Dababy killed someone trying to rob him while he was with his daughter.

Considering that Pop Smoke and other rappers have been literally killed by random people, I don't blame Dababy for defending himself with his weapon lethally considering the circumstances. That's why he wasn't canceled for killing someone.

Also...rappers still rap about killing people and still make money.

Yall are just confused at how things work. If Dababy is canceled for homophobic language then why isn't Eminem canceled? ...the reason is because one guy has sincerely apologized and moved on and the other guy hasn't.

If only more people would apologize instead of screaming about cancel culture we wouldn't have these issues. All this talk about the old school this and that but being old school means having manners and the strength to say "I'm Sorry."

 

He had an auditorium at said school named after him. He's still touring to large crowds, as you constantly point out. The Netflix special is still available.

What or who was canceled again? What are you whining about?

 

The nefarious "they". I hate "they". They don't use their turn signals either. Stupid "they". How about we cancel "they".

 

There is a simple solution to this high school situation.

Spoiler

Sprinkle some crack around the school yard, and then get out of there.

 

I stopped reading his comments a while back

 

They were trying to get his session at his school canceled.

Nobody was hosting his movie about George Floyd. There’s some serious cognitive dissonance going on

 

It’s like the defense of “yea so they were trying to kill the guy but were unsuccessful so what!”

 

Technically he didn't say anything about the community - it was about himself. It's all shades of grey anyway. He's not Mitt Romney and perhaps its the media amplifying this and creating more controversy by fueling the fire here.

And again, they demanded accountability for offensive content - you still have not answered what that means and I feel you are being disingenuous in your answer here.

As a cis male I never claimed to speak for transgender people. By the way, your use of "trans people" is considered pejorative by the transgender community and would label you as transphobic. No, I don't speak for them and you can say my opinion doesn't matter. That's fine. But I am still free to express my opinion and you are still free to take issue with it.

I feel like we've exhausted this without resolving much but that's ok. Maybe at this point it's just agree to disagree.

 

He flat out said he'd stop joking about that community...then didn't.
I did answer it, they literally explained what that meant in their list of demands pretty explicitly. None of that was about taking his show off of Netflix. In fact, his special wasn't even mentioned in their list of demands.

"Trans People" is not pejorative. It's just Transgender shortened. In fact...GLAAD and NCTE and numerous other organizations use that word. So you're just flat out wrong there. And I'm not saying you can't speak your opinion but I am saying that if a large number of Trans people say it was offensive to them then I'd rather listen to them. I just always find it odd when people either try to take offense for a group they are not part of or tell a group of people that they should not be offended.

I think you called out dobro for being biased but I think you are letting your bias blind you to the clear offense here. I know you wouldn't think about this if it were literally any other person. If this were Trump saying "I'm proud to be a TERF" or anyone else you wouldn't make the excuse you did for Dave.

So did Dave walk that back then? People have surely told him what that term means and I've yet to see him say anything about how he was wrong or how he should learn what the term means or anything.

It's amazing to me all this talk about his jokes when everything he said that was offensive and that people had issue with wasn't even jokes. He defended Rowling, compared transwomen to blackface, and said he was team TERF all outside of the structure of his jokes. He just said that stuff in a serious tone of that 'I'm being real right now' mode Comedians enter to give the audience a breath. So you can't blame people for not laughing stuff that were not even meant to be jokes.

 

Also, because @dobro1229 said this and as a poster I know certain posters usually know what they are talking about. I figured he couldn't have just made this up, he's not that kind of poster. SoI looked into the Dorman thing and found out...he was right. Dave fabricated the story and twisted it into something else. Now, comedians always twist stories and fabricate them to make them funny. I think that's 100% fine when joking about how this one time at the barbershop or this one time at Walmart...but fabricating a story about why someone committed suicide?

I almost wish I didn't look into it because it makes Dave look worse. It makes it look like Dave used her as his 'Trans' friend to hide behind. A friend that he didn't even know had a child until she died (that comes from his own mouth) and one he uses to soften the blow of the things he said earlier in the stand up to make it seem like he was coming from a place of love. I have my own assumptions as to why the family is so adamantly defending Dave...that's a whole other thing...but it is true, they do defend Dave but they don't say his story is true.

But basically, Daphne's sister on why she committed suicide.


And this is part of a long thread about how Dave twisted this story. Making it seem like she died days after the tweet instead of a month plus. Making it seem like she was dragged publically when that tweet itself only had 9 replies, not all of them negative, and ignoring (or rather belittling) the fact that the trans community DID do something in her honor and reach out for her and raise money for her daughter. Now Dave never said "This was the reason she killed herself," that is true, but he made up the part about the Transcommunity dragging her on twitter. That never happened.

So I'll leave the twitter thread here, it's long, but it's nothing but facts. Dave told a false story, either knowingly or unknowingly (I mean, he didn't even know Daphne 'his dear friend' had a daughter until she died...so it's possible he didn't know much about her at all) but people can read the thread and see for themselves. It was a fake story, which is common in comedy, but the thread has the receipts. It's long, at the end the person rambles...


Maybe the bullying was offline, who knows. There's a slim chance it was in private messages, but you have a lot of control over who sends you messages...but the bullying campaign never came from the LGBTQ+ community.

I'll leave the conversation here unless anyone has anything interesting to add. I'm sure the post will be dismissed because "It's long." and "Why do you care?" to further deny Dave did anything wrong here, I fully expect those replies in the DnD, but for those that sincerely want to know, there it is. I know there is no swaying people when they are strongly in a fandom...I know that from telling family members "Yo, R-kelly is bad, the evidence is clear...yes the music is good...but he's still bad..."

Dave can be extremely talented and still do crappy things. I think this whole ordeal with him has been pretty crappy and he added on to it by getting defensive with HS kids...

 

See I think you are fabricating something here. Nothing here contradicts what Chapelle said. You say it never happened but admit that it may have? His family put out a statement in support of Chapelle - clearly they felt moved enough to do that and their daughter did hold him dearly - you don't mention that here.

I don't even think you can claim he was defensive with those HS kids - did you SEE the actual dialogue or just reacting to what you read in the media? Context is everything and I suspect you are reacting to the latter.

But your claim he fabricated the story in fact only makes you and debro lose credibility here.

 

Are you saying that the claimed sister tweet is fake?

 

I never said that. Not sure why you are coming to that conclusion.