Eric Gordon has been in the league 14 years and still kicking the ball out of bounds when he drives. Drives me crazy, but I don't blame the coaches.
Let's not be jealous of Jalen Green chatting online with babes all day. Let's blame Silas for his game not being great.
Not about the record. That Warriors team was performing a lot better than we are, our net rating is pretty terrible right, blow outs every game. That team won 15 games too and I'm not sure we'll even win half of this at that rate. That lineup without Curry was terrible and Green didn't play all of the season either. Paschall, Robinson 3, Daimon lee, Alec Burks, and Jordan Poole were their top 5 players. I'd argue that roster is worse than ours. 2 of those guys were rookies while one was on his 2nd year.
You're missing the point entirely. Watch the Spurs...now Watch the Rockets. I dare you to lie to me and say the Spurs look undisciplined or poorly undisciplined. The Spurs lose games because they don't have the talent. Not because of coaching. Again, you're caught up on the teams record and not their performance. The mistake you're making is ignoring the clear mistakes Silas makes night in and night out, like play our worst lineup and combinations the most minutes every night. This is a complete strawman and what is worse I've specifically said my argument wasn't about the Rockets being further along so I'll ignore it. That just makes it worse and proves my point that we should be running more PnR and not less...which is what I specifically said in my first post in this thread. Yeah but again...I never said heads should roll, especially for KPJ or Green. I explicitly said Silas should finish the year. Soooo, I'm not sure where this is directed to... But your posts here does seem to imply that Silas should have 0 responsibility for the mess that is this team, currently on track, btw, to be the worst NBA team ever. But according to some Silas has little next to nothing to do with that.
But Silas is implementing the strategy during the game which...has a huge affect on team performance. After all, if I coach the Rockets and say "Christian Wood is now the PG." that's not going to work out that well now is it? And guess what? If I'm adamant about Wood bringing the ball up the floor and the team disagrees so what? I'm the coach. They just have to deal with it. Like I said...there's a reason playoff teams get rid of coaches. If coaching didn't matter that much you wouldn't see that happening as much as it does. It happens because playoff teams realize they can get more out of their team with better coaching. It's not the players fault if he's playing out of position or being told to do things he's not good at.
Well there are unknowns. You don’t know what our record will be at the end of this year. They still had green playing most of the season as well as several other serviceable vets like glen robinson, lee, and burks not to mention russell and Wiggins later on. They also still had guys on the championship teams like looney and green. That team was a veteran team other than poole and so they were in a different situation than our current team and it’s not fair to compare. But my point is even with that veteran team that included all star Russell and green plus curry (5 games) couldn’t pull out wins. They couldn’t because despite them being vets they didn’t have enough talent and the chemistry wasn’t right. No coaching will fix that. Poole is now better. Lee is better. Steph is healthy. They have iggy back. But it took them two seasons to get back to being contenders with time, chemistry, continuity, and talent. Which is what I’ve said all along.
Wood isn’t a point forward and he doesn’t play that way. He takes the ball down the floor because he has the ability. Just like tate does and just like sengun. They take the ball on the break because they want to play a fast style but in no way are they playing point as KPJ EG and now green has played the point for this offense. Unfortunately some teams fire their coaches prematurely or there may be other reasons we don’t know about. Its not just about x and o’s. But also teams have a small window to win and it takes several years to build a winning culture. It also all depends on how much faith organization has in coach and what trajectory the team is going in. Houston gave mchale 5 years. MDA 4 years. Mchale has issues with the star player while MDA couldn’t beat top tier contenders (warriors, lakers) and unfortunately the hammer falls on coaches.
PFFFT. your example is the equivalent of us doing that a few years ago. We literally fired a coach that got us to playoffs, to do extraordinary things. We fired mchale and got d'antoni and almost won it all. Firing silas would not replicate that same results. 1) our team is sht and Our franchise player (wall lol) isn't even playing 2) rookies need time to get better. 3) we are not even close to playoffs, much less participate in it U keep using GSW as an example for your antitank stance, but newsflash they have HOFs we dont.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-weighing-future-of-head-coach-stephen-silas So @HP3 and @Stephen_A can stop acting like it's just fans that are saying it. Seems like other coaches realize it too and at least based on this Silas has an issue disciplining his players... You keep talking about wins and not the actual performance of the team. The team is right now on track to being the worst team in the NBA. You can say "You can't tell the future." but what makes you think something is going to change? Yeah...no. Wood bringing the ball up and Tate bringing the ball up has worked out terribly for the Rockets. Especially when you have two faster guards to give it to. Literally, all he does is bring up the ball so that the defense can set up. Sengun CAN bring the ball up because he can actually pass, the other two...not so much. Wood bringing the ball up while ignoring a player that's the fastest guy on the court (Green) is wasted buckets every time. Every time he does that he wastes buckets. You talk about building a winning culture but how is that happening right now? Coaches can also build a losing culture and I'd argue that is what is happening now. Sounds like Silas is too nice for the job. You're going to need a hardass with a team this young. Someone that's going to tell Wood to set actual picks or sit on the bench and force the team to stop playing so selfishly.
Again you’re buying too much into the whole over importance of coaching and articles to stir up attention lol. Coaches will always have something to say. Im sure there are those who don’t like Kerr’s style. Im sure your co workers will have something to say about your performance at work as well. I never said it’s just fans thinking this. I stand by what i said, which is the over emphasis on the importance of coaching vice players performance through talent, accountability, and ability. I would be very interested to see an honest poll that asks NBA players who they feel has the most influence on the outcome of games coaches or players. Im willing to bet they will say players. Like AI said its just practice man not the game. Players know. At the end of the day it’s about winning. But hey we disagree.
And you buy into this idea that a coach has little impact. Allen Iverson thinks coaches are important lol. That whole practice thing was about him being mad at the team for entertaining the idea of trading him and Brown was mad at him for missing practice. Turns out, Allen Iverson realized Brown was right and that for the Sixers to become a better team he had to come to practice and be a better leader. But Allen Iverson knew the value of coaching. I'd bet everything that players would not agree with you but we won't know... Well, Kyrie would but I don't think you want Kyrie taking your side on anything at the moment. But it'd be easy to find quotes from any random legend about the importance of coaching and harder for you to find players saying coaching doesn't matter.
Again I never said coaches didn’t matter. I’m speaking about NBA coaches only — are over romanticized and dramatized in terms of their importance. I explained to you they have a role and some importance — its just not as big as the media and some people make it out to be. At the end of the day it’s about players. Everyone plays a role; some just more significant than others, which are the players.
You gotta take development into consideration with this team / roster and particularly the rookies, You look at Fox coming into the league as a 30% 3 point shooter who hasn't improved shooting .244 from range. Green shooting 27.4% as a rookie .... we need to see if he improves over the course of this season & next offseason before we call him a bust. I will say this - Its Silas offense that has gotten Green countless open looks from the three point line and he has missed 72.6% of the time. If Green makes another 5.6% of those and shoots only 33% from 3 we're likely having a different conversation right now. He'd be averaging 1.2 more points per game as a result. What most people are complaining about is who's actually playing , not how they are playing and lets be quite honest here , if the rookies are getting the bulk of the minutes , the record isn't any better and they aren't playing close games either .... It takes some balance between the young players & veterans steadying the ship ... I think its fairly likely there's a trade at the deadline that clears some of our veterans and the people complaining about who's playing will find something else to complain about in short order. As for Silas actually developing a player , just look at Martin .... he's come a long way from last years summer league to now. Tate was an afterthought - Jae'Sean who ? Even KPJ has come a long way playing for Silas .... even if he ultimately doesn't make it , the odds were long for that experiment to pay off to begin with and he's close to being a capable NBA lead guard. Bottom line , there's signs that players respond to Silas even if they aren't winning games in a year we didn't think they'd win many ..... and those who thought they'd be a playoff team or play in team were delusional from the get go. Lets see how the players develop between now and seasons ....
While I respect your opinion but please.. stop just stop trying to defend SIlas it just never works out in anyones favor to do that. Your post sort of ignores context and ofcourse that what you have to do to defend Silas. I could write a three page post on how it missed context but im working while im typing this so ill keep it brief. Silas only played KJ because House got injured and he didnt develop **** this season. Even after KJ played better he still sat him the next game after House got back. He saw how KJ improved last year and decided it didnt matter. Sengun has shown that he as a uncnay ability to make difficult passes and run the offense as a big man but Silas has taken no steps to improve that he only opts to bring in Theis as much a s possible. We've been struggling looking for playmakers and some how a guy like JC who could be a great playmaker sees erratic minutes if any at all on a team not looking to win at all for the sake of vets who wont be in our future. No matter how bad the vets play and how much he says he is experimenting with lineups his lineups are the same and the only change comes when someone is injured.Silas has done nothing as a coach. Green getting lots of minutes and missed open shots but its in the flow of a confused frantic offense. To be honest I dont even think he's expecting the ball when he is open because our guys are so worried about themselves and they have tunnel vision so much so that it takes him completely out of the game for large periods. You need to be organized in order for that not to happen but they are out there aim less and when you ask SIlas about it he says basicccallt he just wants themt o get pt. Which is confusing ebcause he also trots out vets over other young players. Silas himself seems to thiink he's trying ot make the playoffs by his lineups, instead of developing players. I could go on and on and seemingly everyone can see this but him. So I didnt say our situation mirrored theirs just that their situation could be used as a cautionary tale on hiring the wrong guy for your situation. Context is for Kings.
Well, was it you that said players are 75% of it and coach 25%? Someone said that, I think it was you. Even if you believe that...25% is a huge chunk there. If I told you there was a way to make you 25% better at doing something my guess is you'd take it in a hurry. If a CEO found out s/he could sell their product better by 25%, my guess is they'd do it in a heartbeat. So I don't know how much % you are accounting for coaches but if it's not like 1% it's still a huge difference, especially at the pro level where every little thing matters.
You know what an offense depends on? Players. That's not them necessarily criticizing the coach, maybe it is but idk. So far, everyone is crying over KJ Martin and Sengun not getting minutes as well as Thesis who Silas did not sign. Oh yea and the losing lol.
