I think they were all probably assholes and instigators but that has no bearing on this. I admit I missed the part about Grosskuertz aiming his gun at him, I stand corrected.
funny, I was being nice and said I didn’t think you were a China bot anymore. But hey, whatever makes you happy in D and D.
*sees gun pointed directly at Rittenhouse on the ground *sees Rittenhouse cowering on the ground protecting himself while he is assaulted with a skateboard to the head *squints "Oh my god he had a plastic bag thrown at him and he did WHAT!?" You are the poster boy for literally how mentally insane leftists are.
Right, that's why that info wasn't introduced, however, what was introduced was the video evidence and eyewitness evidence that gave credence to Rittenhouse’s version of the story.
The prosecutors were bad and there are some Wisconsin laws that need to be addressed. The minor in possession of a gun is horribly written. The intent was supposedly just to account for hunting, and it turns out a 16 or 17 year old could openly carry a hunting sized rifle (barrel 16+ inches, entire gun 26+ inches). If Rittenhouse was 15, he would have been guilty. If the law didn't have the word "or" he most likely would have been guilty. The other law is that prosecutors had to prove he wasn't protecting himself. It was obviously argued both ways, but there was nothing in evidence proving he was.
No , everyone around wasn't fair game - Only those who attacked him were fair game. That depends upon how serious the person making the threat appears .... and when the guy who makes the threat charges at you head on while attempting to take your weapon ..... Well , that threat appears to be pretty fvcking serious IMO. Its well beyond an empty threat ....
Damn, this kid was in county jail with no running water from October 31 until Nov 20. When they released him, he took a 3 hour shower and he had blood on his skin and he said he was just totally disgusting and smelly.
They should be investigated by the state bar for their unethical tactics during the trial. Charging is a judgment call and different people can see things differently. I saw clear self-defense in the videos, so I would not have charged it, but they were convinced there was provocation and insufficient effort to withdraw. Commenting on the defendant not giving a statement of the events prior to testifying, putting evidence before the jury that had been excluded, and giving the defense a different (lower resolution) version of what you think is THE key piece of evidence in the case are all prosecutorial misconduct. Were I the judge, I would certainly consider a recommendation that the state bar investigate.
The past of Rosenbaum or Grosskreutz had no bearing on the self-defense arguments as there is now way Rittenhouse knows their history. At the same time Rittenhouse's past doesn't really have much bearing either. This is a situation where you have to look more at the specific incidences. If we consider what is "reasonable" and "appropriate" as that is what nearly all self-defense laws are predicated on then it's certainly reasonable that if someone is striking you in the head with a hard object that is an imminent threat that could lead to severe injury or death so it would be appropriate to use deadly force. If someone is aiming a gun that would be reasonably be a lethal threat and it would be appropriate to respond with deadly force. In the case of Rosenbaum he had verbally threatened Rittenhouse's life and then moved to attack Rittenhouse. In that case there is a clear intent to do harm to Rittenhouse. Where it get's cloudy is whether Rosenbaum unarmed is enough of a threat to Rittenhouse requiring a lethal response. The self-defense laws though give a lot of latitude towards what is in the mindset of the person defending themselves. It would be reasonable doubt that Rittenhouse did feel he was threated enough that he had to respond with the force he had at hand, his firearm. Again to reiterate I'm not surprised and expected Rittenhouse to be acquitted. The only surprise I had was how long it took the jury to deliberate. That doesn't mean I condone or celebrate Rittenhouse. He's not a hero but a dumb kid, with no training, who made the situation worse, who shouldn't have been there and it was very irresponsible of Kenosha PD and others to have let him be there.
Why are y’all so triggered over this? People don’t tend to change their opinions when they have strong expressed themselves one way on social media. just like the GOPers who insist that Ashli Babbit was murdered
