https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prospects/anthony-edwards#/ It is a myth that 19 year olds cannot come in ready with 220-23 pounds. Edwards managed to do that before entering the league. If you are coming in skinny, you got to make up for it with other strengths. Morant is still skinny but his game revolves around other areas. Obviously Zion needs no introduction, he was even too heavy.
I was pro-Green but certainly not anti-Mobley and still have that same stance. I thought the g-league debates were silly considering there isn't a long history of players like Green going to the g-league. It was silly watching people try to argue his projected NBA stats while using Green vs Porter's G-league stats as if there's some magical algorithm for 19 year old high draft picks. All that being said, those dead end arguments didn't influence me one way or another and I certainly don't use them when assessing Green's or Mobley's beginning of their career or outlook. Why do they even matter @jiggyfly
It matters because of how outlandish the arguments for Green where. Thats why I like mocking them. What does influence have to do with anything?
Green has no bag, his iso moves are just dribbling side to side in a very predictable pattern that leads nowhere 99% of the time
Alright, The Athletic has him all the way down at #10. Fair enough I guess given they are assessing production so far rather than potential. Guess we start from here. List looks super easy to climb to be honest given literally every other rookie has a better or more ready team around them. Our team is going to improve the most between now and the second half. Green has really started to slow down and understand what the defense is allowing him. A little more work on his handles and he is going to understand how and how much to put pressure with drives. He needs to attack the basket 10 times a game, that's the ideal mix for him.
So here's something that definitely must change in Jalen, and I think everyone understands that it's the core difference maker to his future: he has to learn early through trial and error that JUST sitting back and playing seamless team ball and waiting for openings to come to you is not ALWAYS the best thing to do for every type of player. It's the way the Spurs play, and you can see it's pointless without players like Duncan, Ginobili, Leonard and Parker who all learned how to take the game by the neck when it's calling for a leader to close it out. There's such a thing as "too patient" for a franchise player. Seems like a such a great team player tbh. Here I'm afraid, Silas' nice guy personality, volume of experience and coaching fundamentals won't suffice. Either Green "gets it" on his own or someone with that quality (Hakeem?) teaches it to him. Something to keep an eye on, I'm obviously optimistic it will happen. He has shown flashes and at some point when KPJ has had his chance to learn his role, Green will get the same chance I think to impose his will on the game.
The sooner people quit attaching 'franchise player' next to Jalen, the better for their mental health.
We have been observing bball too long to not know this. Pre/season rankings are based on potential. Rankings during the season are based on production.
Year three is typically when young players make the biggest jump. Like are you honestly stating there is nothing between 20 NBA games and 5 years of experience? Really? Like actually really?
I love posts like these where people try to look smart and instead make themselves look like total morons. Just awesome.
I think Green plays way better when he's paired with EG for some reason. I think it might have something to do Green has seen through trial and error if he forced his will at the moment he will shoot 20 percent from the field and get stripped and blocked forcing drives. He doesn't have the ball handling nor strength to impose his will at the moment. It's best that he sits back for now until he tightens up the fundementals. It's better to play smart and passive than assertive and inefficient
Agreed right now his best games are the games where his usage was the lowest. He's not a ball handler at this stage of his career, he's an off ball scorer. When he tries to be a primary ball handler everything falls apart.
It is smart, yes. Some young players who were ball-hogs and chuckers early on, like Kobe, grew up to be franchise players, other like Dion Waiters played themselves out of the league. Being low-key is the safer route. My big question from day one is, is this kid "the cornerstone" or not? so far nothing suggests he is. He’s talented and he’ll progress, but does he have "it" in him?
The word 'corner stone' is thrown around too much. I mean there is a whole dimension between being a Superstar, a legit star and Allstar. Personally Bradley Beal and Zach Lavine are stars but not corner stones. I also think the SG spot is not really the most important position but I admit we are not choosers but beggars. How to define your star player will be relevant later on when you make tough choices to build around him.
I think Green is so far away from being a "cornerstone" at this stage that there's no point in even talking about it. There's no point having an "it" factor when you can't even handle the ball, or shoot an open 3 consistently
Jalen could score 20 a game, but then his defense would be questioned. He could score 20 a game with + defense and then his playmaking would be questioned. He could score 20, play solid D, have 5 dimes a game and then his rebounding would be questioned. It will NEVER be enough for a certain segment of contributors here and its hilarious that they expected all of these things from the jump while they stat watch other rookies while conveniently ignoring each independent situation for each of the prospects. At least Jalen has started every game while some of the other guys have already dealt with injury. There's something to be said for availability. Could have been worse though - we could have been "stuck" with Jalen Suggs right wasnt he also talked up as "NBA Ready"? (I still feel he will be a good player too though and the point is pounding your chest either way about a rookie 17 games in is stupid)
