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Law and order teen charged with murder

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    And in which of those actions were they were intending to kill someone while she was affiliated with them?

    Yes, and? If a person is no longer murdering, they are not a murderer. Just as someone who no longer commits crimes is not a criminal, someone who no longer teaches is not a teacher, someone who no longer sings is not a singer, etc.

    A person’s past doesn’t define who they are today, and it certainly shouldn’t reflect on those who choose to associate with that person today. Not a popular view with the cancel culture crowd, I know, but that’s my position.
     
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  2. raining threes

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    Yep,

    Let the pain reign

    It's the only way for this country to not become a socialist at best or a communist at worst country. We're getting what we deserve as a nation with the last election.
     
  3. apollo33

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    not sure if I can agree with that. What do you mean by if they are no longer murdering. If you have ever murdered someone in your life, you will always be a murderer. Are you saying Weinstein is not rapist anymore because he is currently not raping people.
     
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  4. rhino17

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    None of those are reasons for a mistrial. Those are evidentiary/procedural violations.

    A mistrial would just lead to a new trial, probably with a much less favorable judge for the defense.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    evidentiary/procedural errors are not reasons for a mistrial? Please expand.
     
  6. durvasa

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    If he still has the capacity and willingness to commit rape, and if given the opportunity he will commit rape, then I think you can fairly call him a rapist.

    I don’t believe in branding someone by their past misdeeds if there’s good reason to think they’ve changed.
     
  7. bobrek

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    Presenting evidence to the jury that you did not provide the defense is reason for a mistrial.

    Accusing the defendant on the stand of keeping quiet until his testimony is reason for a mistrial.

    Asking about evidence that has been prohibited from being discussed is reason for a mistrial.

    Whether or not the judge grants one is a whole other question, but that and other prosecutorial missteps are giving the judge something to think about.

    Plus, a mistrial with prejudice precludes another trial.
     
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    The new video is nice. I need to upgrade my security cameras ASAP. 2017 cameras arent cutting it.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    The judge has been showboating at times but the prosecution has done many things that deserve to be criticized.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm surprised that the jury deliberations are still going on. It might not be good news for Rittenhouse if they are still deliberating. Just speculating but my guess would be they are trying to determine if he is guilty of a lesser charge.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I think he is definitely going to get nailed for reckless endangerment. I think the jury will be hung on the murder charge.
     
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    Breaking news: Rittenhouse is guilty for the murder of the prosecutors’ career.
     
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    This captures the thinking and justification behind much of the Trump movement. The ends justifies the means. It’s no longer a discussion about policy. It is - the Dems are evil, they are ruining the country, they are turning it brown, white people are under attack, so we it doesn’t matter the cost, burn it down, show up with guns, storm the capitol. Who cares if turn our backs on values, right versus wrong, humanity, decency. The ends justifies the means.
     
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    Wrong, it's a rebuke of socialism. Socialism is evil and Dems that believe in socialism are evil. (This doesn't include all Dems)

    Everybody needs to and is beginning to feel the pain of what socialism really is. Standing up against socialism should be the goal of every American regardless of skin color. Good news is the Hispanic/Cuban population seems to be rejecting socialism as well as a growing number in the African American community.
     
  16. Rileydog

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    fine, rebuke of socialism is what you call the “ends”.

    there is no disputing the fact that trumpers believe what I posted. The ends justifies the means. Insurrection. Show of force with guns, tear down institutions. Erode the country’s ability to discuss facts. Fake news card. Sheep card. Destroy civil public discourse. Encourage violent speech, angry rants at school board meetings. Members of Congress promoting violence against other party members. The big lie. Yup, it’s all ok because the ends justifies the means.

    “let the pain reign”, right?
     
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    I would say that this is exactly what I would describe BLM as doing.

    Are you feeling the pain of inflation or at the pump yet? If you aren't then you probably will by Christmas or the first of the year. Or you're wealthy where this doesn't matter and the middle/lower class are your subjects.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Socialism is far from evil. The United States has had some socialistic programs for as long as it has been around. We can debate the amount of those programs, but they've been around and helped our nation since the beginning.

    Most of our allies in Europe and Asia have even more socialistic programs and none of them are evil.
     
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  19. Rileydog

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    for my own entertainment, I’ll engage with low expectations.

    Answer: inflation is high, not good right now.

    Question: what is the cause? Brandon as trumpers like to say? Please explain what policies and legislation that Biden has promoted and enacted that caused the inflation. No, don’t rant. This is a specific question that requires specific answers, not feelings. (Infrastructure bill? No, that can’t be, it just got passed and zilch as been done. BBB bill? Nope, not passed yet. Let’s see, how about supply chain? Ok, what is the lead time for inflationary pressures to Mount and then manifest in actual inflation, what are the actual causes (hint, plural) of the supply chain problem, and which causes are attributable to the Biden administration.)
     
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    MSNBC tried to dox the jury. Their reporter ran a red light trying to follow jury bus. Enemy of the people

     

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