None of this has anything to do with what went on on those streets that night. The people who attacked him took their chances and they picked the wrong guy to fvck with. I never said he was a hero, I said people need to protect themselves from theses violent thugs. Do you disagree with protecting yourself, your property from violent thugs? I get what MLK was saying. I'm like this, if you want to lawlessly riot instead of peacefully protest them dont be surprised when the people who are being under seige of the rioters start killing people. Like what happened iin this case.
As I recall, the crying was during his direct testimony. Direct examination is scripted, rehearsed, over and over. His cross was after, and his demeanor during his cross was calm, measured, composed, and he carefully chose words of self defense that was rehearsed over and over. As it should have been by any competent trial team. Whatever you might think about the merits of this case, let’s not be naive. His lawyers made the calculated decision to put him on the stand, they practiced that direct examination for what, probably 100 hours, as they should, and in no way was the crying new or spontaneous. Is there some degree of authenticity in the crying? Yeah maybe. Even a skilled actor needs to tap into some degree of personal authentic emotion. Was it practiced on video, rehearsed, played back for critique like a movie, encouraged, embellished and refined? Yeah absolutely. It would have been malpractice not to do so.
you’re getting it twisted. I have a problem with a 17 year old kid illegally obtaining an assault rifle, going out to a place where he doesn’t belong, all because he wants to play make believe cop. are you taking the position that we as a country should want 17 year olds on the street playing make believe cop? your bluster about the 2nd amendment doesn’t answer the question posed in this case, or the moral/societal problem posed by Rittenhouse.
Nope. You are advocating for agitation with praising his actions which means you are placing his actions on a pedestal and therefore labeling him as what essentially amounts to being a "hero". You are advocating for something that only causes more agitation and it more than likely comes from a desire for schadenfreude over a group of people you don't like rather than a sincere desire for peace. You want escalation if you want more high school drop outs pumped full of right wing propaganda, no formal training in de-escalation tactics, who worship Chetto Mussolini roaming minority streets with AR-15s.
When a brain washed lefty tries to justify and explain something he has no clue of other than what the media and twitter tells him and then proceeds to blame right wing propaganda for a kid who was seen all night helping people or trying to help people. There is no proof other than that bs pixelated mess the prosecution is trying to pass off as evidence of provocation. There are no witnesses that have testified on these bs claims of provocation. The prosecution threw out this hail mary and for some reason the judge who by the way still couldn't make out wtf he was seeing allowed it. The reach is amazing in this case, despite all evidence pointing towards self defense the media is literally creating a fake narrative and the prosecution pulling out an altered single pixelated image that no one would be able to tell what they are looking at unless the a$$ hole prosecutor tells them what they are seeing. If the jury is fair Kyle should walk, and I hope he sues the absolute $hit out of the state and media. I have hopes our justice system still brings forth justice....
Dude I'm not going to even bother with you. No where did I even make claims of whether he should be charged for murder. Hint: I don't think he should have ever been charged for murder and I think it was a bad move for prosecutors and only added fuel to the right wing propaganda machine. My entire point is about not placing this little piece of **** on a pedestal. Before you go around and peg me as some out of touch leftists read what I type.
This country would be in a better place if more 17yr old's would get off twitter and insta to try and help their community from low life convicts rampaging threw entire communities because they can. None of the people out there that night should have been there, if they wouldn't have been burning the city down Kyle would have stayed home. But hey, political figures had to push their agenda and incite violence.
The only people I see use the term right wing propaganda are brain washed leftist.... If I'm mistaken I apologize. I have not read your history in this thread and don't know your position I also apologize. It came off like that to me.
If you think it takes political figure to agitate communities that have 1000% wealth gaps per median household, then you need to pay attention to history. I'm sure you are that type of conservative who will wax lyrricsl about MLK and how he was the right type of activist. Why do you think he said "riots are the language of the unheard"? No, he didn't advocate for rioting. He just understood who socioeconomic conditions naturally spring riot type behavior. You can tell who are the type of pepe who sincerely want to end the pattern of sporadic riots and who are here just to feel like they are on some high horse. A bunch of Kyle Rittenhouses aren't going to solve these issues. They are just going to make them worse. I suggest you actually read the history of the Weimar Republic, and how this type of brownshirt vigilante justice was on the rise. If you think this is what you actually want, you really need a history lesson.
The only people you see use the term right wing propaganda are leftists? Are you implying right wing propaganda doesn't exist? The fact that you think more high school drop outs with no discernible skills whos classmates label him as the potential next school shooter and also state how aggressive he was when it comes to political topics like defending Trump when he was at school should exist says that you might be a victim of right wing propaganda also.
you are omitting the key fact he went out there with an AR. Illegally. To play make believe cop. So you’re saying you think 17 yos should go out into the streets with AR? And our society should want that? It’s a simple issue. If you’re saying 17 year old kids should help their communities, well yeah, that’s a generic statement that everyone supports, but does not apply at all when we are talking about carrying an assault rifle illegally to play pretend cop.
Not only does he want a 17 year old with a firearm patrolling the streets he wants one who isn't mentally and socially well adjusted who's classmates explicitly came out and stated how aggressive he was in school and was the type of kid who would go around and try to "trigger the libs" and would tell you that he's going to **** you up because someone talked **** about Trump his classmates never took him seriously because of his stature and appearance. So ya, he's probably a victim of bullying also but that led him to be not a well adjusted kid. The last thing we need is kids who aren't well adjusted who have extreme political opinions running around with firearms thinking they are heros. Does this @Salvy guy really think it's a good idea to have those type of people roaming the streets playing vigilante?
Riots burning down local small businesses help wage gaps? Some people out there that night were not victims of wage gaps, they were out there because they wanted to loot and burn the city down. I don't think we need vigilantes murdering people who want to protest. I think we need people helping their communities out from violent rioters, they should be allowed to protect themselves. There is right wing propaganda, its just as toxic as the left. But in this day and age, everything that happens typically is associated with the right.
Stopped reading after that sentence. You either can't read or are purposely strawmanning my statement. If it's the former, I suggest you learn the difference between a normative and positive claim.
So people who go into hostile territories with burning businesses and angry mobs should not have a way to defend themselves? We either remove people attempting to help altogether or we allow those that want to take a risk at least carry some sort of protection. Did Kyle shoot anyone who was not putting his life in danger? Did Kyle fire a round accidently or without reason? I don't think we need 17yo with guns, I think we need people who care enough to help their communities.
I'm advocating for people to come together to protect their lives/property. Nothing more or less and yes, there will be bloodshed. That happens when people standup to thugs.
You are saying rather empty bs. Where did I say anything about private busones owners not having the right to protect their property? I'm stating that Kyle Rittenhouses of the world aren't part of the solution, they are part of the problem.
Anyways your talking points are not only vague but contradictory. You say you aren't placing Rittenhouse on a pedestal.as a hero and yet saying we need more kids like him. Also, those white rioters who came into those neighborhoods thinking they are helping the cause of Black communities by going into them and rioting are also pieces of **** who are harming activism for Black community causes. So ya, the people Rittenhouse shot are not people I would think we need more of either.
