The thing is this damn prosecutor Binger is not a likable fella and a douchebag. That will not go over well with the jurors. Jurors are humans too, and if you are likable, you will be getting credit and good will from them and that can influence their decision.
I've watched the entire trial , He's a douche of the highest order .... his partner is no better. They really had no case to begin with and were constantly fishing for a "Got ya" moment ....The only Got Ya moment in this trial was Grosskreutz admitting that Rittenhouse didn't shoot him until he closed the distance and pointed his weapon at him. That guy's a clown too .... I think the defense stumbled a bit on some of the lesser included stuff and should have gotten that stupid video thrown out yesterday trying to show provocation when you couldn't see a damn thing - even the judge said something similar (without the jury in the room).
Totally agreed. The defense has a huge lead, just don’t blow it by committing too many unforced errors.
I've only watched a couple hours and this is the first trial I've ever followed. But I think the provocation instruction is what all the people who don't believe in a right to self defense like RocketsJudoka need to send this guy to prison. The facts of the case make it clear acts of self defense, even the most rabid posters here grudgingly admit that. Once you preclude self defense because of provocation, none of those facts matter. Everyone hating on the judge, how did he even remotely hurt the states case? raising his voice when the prosecution claimed a defendants right to remain silent meant he was guilty? He didn't even sanction him or instruct the jury to disregard and the jury was out of the room. The prosecutor did what he wanted and got the jury instruction he wanted.
I know someone that went to federal prison for 12 years for having a gun he shouldn't have. He never even pointed at anyone. He was just hanging with people that were up to no good and that was enough for the judge to throw the book at him.
Just now seeing the crying clip... What the? How could that sway anyone (in his favor)? Bizarre performance. Like he was auditioning to play a toddler.
Huh? I've never said you don't have a right to defend yourself. In fact that is something I teach. I've also said I think Rittenhouse should be acquitted on the basis of self-defense.
It was not meant to sway anyone, he has ptsd.... Getting attacked by people who absolutely hate you and having to shoot them resulting in deaths is traumatic. That plus the stress of knowing he is about to potentially wrongfully go to jail because he was already deemed guilty in public opinion before even knowing what had happened that night is going to push you over the edge. Brave kid, I hope our justice system does not fail him. But something tells me politics and the media will never allow him to walk....
Maybe a bit of both? He felt the emotions swelling up within him, and made a choice not to suppress it. So it is a kind of performance, though not completely artificial. If I was on the jury, I’d try not to be influenced one way or the other by it.
Tell you what, if you ever come at me with a skateboard/gun/knife etc... and I have a gun you're a dead man. I would rather be judged by 12 than killed by 1. Good luck Mr. Rittenhouse (I hate you're having to go through this.) and I hope there are thousands more like you. Cant let the thugs take over the streets.
Or maybe as film showed he was out there cleaning up the Grafiti that the lawless thugs you seem to embrace had created. Also if you weren't carrying a gun in that type of environment then you are a fool. You maybe good with what was going on in the streeets, fact is when this stuff happens people die. Not that you care about that. I will tell you this. If there were 10,000 Kyle Rittenhouse's in this world none of that **** would've been happening to begin with. People need to start standing up to the thugs even if it means going through what Rittenhouse is currently going through.
He's on trial for the rest of his life. He is getting a brutal cross from a ADA badgering him and looking to his lawyer for help and they weren't offering help. Recounting events that are pretty traumatic whatever you think of him as a person (unless you think he is a sociopath) and under great pressure to get answers worded perfectly. This cross went on for hours BTW. He didn't just get up there and start crying.
He went out there to cleanup grafiti, He took a gun for protection (Thankfully) and when he needed to use his gun he used it. Quite well might I add. You have a problem with people having/using guns to protect themseles? The 2nd amendment pretty well states what rights citizens have in this regard. And no, he's not the poster child for the gun issues in this country. The dude that pulled the gun on Rittenhouse is that poster child. Why didn't the DA file gun charges on that dude? Things are crazy in a lawless society these days. You can pull a gun on somebody and nothing happens and if you get shot while pulling a gun on somebody the person who shot you has to spend the time and money of going to trial. Crazy
If I'm going to be out on the streets at that time with everything that was going on, then you're damned right I'm going to take my gun which has the most rounds possible to protect myself. I would be a fool not too. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
No, Rittenhouse is an agitator. He isn't a savior. The fact that his classmates pegged him as "the next high school shooter", the fact that he is on video punching a girl on the back of the head in a school parking lot fight, the fact that he dropped out of high school says he is not socially adjusted. You praising someone like that says a lot about modern right wing culture. You want to end the likelihood of rioting and looting in a sincere manner, do something about this: "Median Value of Wealth by Race FF(03.11.2019) | Tax Policy Center" https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-fact/median-value-wealth-race-ff03112019 Because there is no place on this planet that doesn't experience violent clashes such as rioting when there is such a massive wealth gap between two of the largest ethnic groups in a nation state. Go find me a place on this Earth where two of the largest races or ethnicities with a 1000% wealth gap between median households that doesn't see things like sporadic riots. That's the nature of humanity. A high school drop out who is brainwashed by right wing propaganda isn't going to help. An no this isn't a justification for rioting. It's just a observation of human nature. When MLK said "riots are the language of the unheard" he wasn't justifying rioting. He was just explaining the nature of humanity.
