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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Warriors 11/7/2021

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. MystikArkitect

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    I really don't like Wood as a player and his overall demeanor is childish. KPJ rubs me the same way. But 9 games into the season and seeing how everyone seems to struggle so much to get a decent shot I can't help but agree with you. I don't even know what this team is supposed to be when it's out there. I get that it's supposed to be a development year but the key word there is development. And I just don't see how this is conducive to that. There are no veterans like Ricky Rubio or Chris Paul to help the youngsters be in position or get back on defense. The only player who I feel is being developed appropriately is Sengun. Who is giving measured minutes and makes with them what he can. Jalen seems to be regressing instead of progressing. KPJ the same.
     
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  2. Joe Rocket

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    Is there an easy schedule when your team is ass?
     
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    Yeah no **** look at my whole post. I realize ppl are going to make there own determinations. I suggested that ppl look at the reality of early returns on rookie scoring guards especially when they are asked to create something out of nothing most of the time. Maybe he won't pan out but it's way too early to tell. Again do and think what you want but I just think it creates undue tension when there are many posters that are going beyond just criticism and are just trolly and mean spirited at this point. My two cents
     
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  4. D-rock

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    Kudos, this was an articulate and well thought out post.

    You posts are usually bombast and/or apocryphal.

    The turnover and efficiency argument has not been emphasized nearly as well as you have.

    Green has so many hurdles to become a legit NBA starter - cut down turnovers, take efficient shots, add strength and improve his defense.
     
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  5. D-rock

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    Silas special
     
  6. Easy

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    I've always said that Morey's two biggest weaknesses are these.

    1. He greatly underestimates the human factor in his talent assessment. Character issues have bitten him more than a few times and he still doesn't seem to have learned the lessons.
    2. He doesn't have the instinct to spot talent (or "un-talent") without extensive data. That's why he is at best average, maybe below average, with the draft (where players don't have NBA level data). He'd rather use picks as trade assets than use them to actually get prospective talents.
     
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    BS. KPJ is progressing very well. His defense is about as good as anyone on the team not named Tate. HIs turnovers are trending down and his passing and play making is improving. He has a decent 3 pt shot and I expect that to get better as well. Jalen has sucked from the start and his defense is atrocious. Not giving up on him as I never thought he was going to excel until he can get an NBA body.
     
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  9. D-rock

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    Green only fans need a scapegoat.

    That's KPJ and Wood.

    Fake ass Rockets fans.
     
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    Bingo, 6th sense of instinct.
     
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    Think he is just playing out of position. Both him and Green play the same position and someone needs to facilitate and control the pace. Big responsibilities given to both young prospects.

    Having that said, the primarily issue is coaching and chemistry. We have guys who are looking forward to have the ball more in their hands and just waiting in the corners and perimeter. Its still the same **** i've noticed since last year. Same gameplay as Dantoni has from the Harden era minus the iso superstar that we lack right now.

    It does not work. We need better coaching, gameplays, defensive schematics and communication out there. Defense is so bad from JG, KPJ and Wood. 3 players in the starting 5 who dont commit to D is gonna punch a lot of holes in the system
     
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  13. MystikArkitect

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    I think it's best to remain as objective as possible in regards to each player on this team. They can't be graded on mistakes but rather their progress. It's just easier that way because they're going going lose. A lot. And it's unhealthy to just say "Jalen sucks lol I knew it" or "KPJ is a malcontent turnover machine". I think the general reaction on this board is just shock. People really let themselves believe that this team was going to be in contention for a play in spot. That was never the goal. And it shouldn't be.

    Each player has his warts right now. Every single one (except for maybe Tate). We need to put the pitchforks down.
     
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    Even in games where he had low turnovers he still missed open players a lot and cant set up the offense for ****. He's not a point guard. What im worried about is that he'll start looking better but still wont be facilitating properly and everyone else will struggle too. If youre not a facilitator as a point guard then you better be scoring 25 to 30 a night and have someone else be a ficilitator in the offense.
     
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    It's KPJ's fault that Green is a year away from being 2 years away from being a year away.
     
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    I’ve never seen napalm so upset. Except for that one finals exam where he missed a question on Luxury tax savings.
     
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  17. D-rock

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    Setting up a BS narrative because KPJ has improved his TOV to AST ratio and increased AST and improved defensively.

    But it will still be KPJ fault that Green is struggling amirite?
     
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    KPJ does some simple side passes and acts like he hand delivered an expensive delicate meal, even those basic passes look turn-overish. Rarely does he hit his man under the basket or open shooter.
     
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    No, but it is the coach's fault, amirite?

    The fact is, we are one of the worst offensive teams in the league. The only player not struggling right now is Eric Gordon (and John Wall ;)).
     
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  20. D-rock

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    If you want to argue that Green is struggling due to Silas not putting him best position to succeed the I'm willing to listen.

    But if you're saying that KPJ is the reason that Green is so TO prone, foul prone, cant defend, can hit a 3, cant finish at the rim then I call bullshet.
     

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