Name some? The guy literally dribbles the ball off his ****ing foot what feels like 4-5 times a game.
I'm just letting you be more efficient and just informing you I'm ignoring you so don't bother replying.
God damn you good at baiting. How can he kick the ball off his foot more times than the amount of turnovers he averages per game? I'm just trying to figure out the math here. BTW Green is the only rookie currently on this team averaging more assists than turnovers.
I am talking right now. I am still not saying he can't have some Bradley Beal or Zach Lavine like career arc. I am sure he can. But this is what he has shown us thus far.
If you want to be credible don't use hyperbolic statements and trying to pass them as rational even keel statements.
Don't even bother. He can't just say he needs to clean up his handle without making some wild hyperbolic statement. Yeah sure Green could stand to clean up his handle but nah this mf has to just clown
I'll take this bet. how much to the tip jar? $100? $200? Simple bet, if he doesn't make it to the All-Star game by the end of his second contract I pay, if he does you pay.
Corey Brewer would trip and fall while AD blocks the **** out of that attempt if he tried to do that.
"Unbiased take" I was a Green supporter redraft, and was rooting for him to get drafted by us. In the 10 games I've seen, it hasn't been good. Ignoring the fact that he will have time to improve and that it's too early to call him a bust, here is what I see. - He is fast and quick, but his poor handles are holding him back a lot. There are many players that are less quick than Green who can penetrate better than him because they have tighter handles and hesitation moves. I see him losing the ball on dribble, and he gets stripped more than I've ever seen a player get stripped. - Finishing, he needs to bulk up and learn how to finish. Right now he is not a threat at the rim unless there is a wide open path. - Shooting, he is very inconsistent. We know he is not a "knockdown" shooter, his offensive game should be varied, however his problems with handles and finishing are turning him into someone who is just a shooter on offense, and that's not his game. No surprise that he's not shooting it well. - Defense, very bad, both on man and off ball. We knew he was a bad defender already, so it's not as alarming to me as the earlier points. He was supposed to be a big time scorer and a mediocre defender, right now he is a bad scorer and a bad defender. Positives - He seems to be unafraid of the moments and relishes in the opportunity to come up big. - His playmaking vision is a nice surprise. He makes some good reads right now. Overall, Mobley is clearly the better pick right now. The most important part of Green's development, is that you hope that we we heard about him being a gym rat and ultra motivated is correct. He has A LOT of improving that he needs to do between now and his 2nd/3rd years in the league. To get to where we want him to be, Green needs to put in a ton of work.
OK here’s what’s a bait: "insanely pathetic", this type of language. I followed closely the exchange, and @Williamson had all the qualifiers in his post that he still not given-up on JG and that he may still turn out great. You guys ignore these, and choose to be triggered over a comp that is quite legit. It’s not the perfect comp, by no means, JG has significantly more skill than Brew, but OTOH Brew had more length and played better defense. But the similarities are there: skinny frame, great athleticism, quickness, poor shooting, clunky high dribble, inability to finish at the rim. If you’re triggered by this comp in a post that has all the thoughtful hedges and nuances, to the point of using “insanely pathetic” hyperbole, that’s on you guys, frankly, the problem is with you…
Never called Green a chucker, he is just not as NBA ready as we all hoped. Expectations for Green is just too sky high and unreasonable because of target he and his stans painted on him. Named himself 1st overall, "experience playing with grown ass men", ROY, named himself Unicorn, NBA leading scorer, Kobe/MJ comparisons, etc. The truth is that he's always been a very talented but very flawed player. 1 dimensional is not taking shots at Green, it is the truth. And we need to be patient with Green, and more measured in putting him in position to succeed, maximize his current talent level.
The comparison to Brewer is ridiculous in in itself. But I'm assuming you missed the part where he said "AT BEST he can be Cory Brewer". That no only isn't a mere shitty comparison but placing an upper limit on a 19 year old with ten games under his belt. And when you sat he's "significantly more skilled" when he's 19 years of age and Brewer has played his entire career, that means it's a bad comparison to begin with. Corey Brewer was never asked to be the ball handler in a pnr offense. He doesn't take the ball up court. He was always seen as a high level 3 and D potential player.
Man - you really aren't good at evaluating basketball talent at all. I see people make boneheaded takes on this board all the time, but dude - you have to take the cake as one of the least informed posters I have seen on here in a long time. It seems like you start with the hot take and go out of your way to find anecdotal evidence to prove it regardless of whether it's true(as long as it supports your opinion)....that might work for you in your own personal very small bubble, but I can assure you it is in no way a reflection of reality. The only certainty here is with your post count, you are the Matt Maloney of CF posters - the person who has a lot of posts/minutes but did absolutely nothing with them.
I don't want to put down Sengun because I'm really.higj on that kid but just to show the level of disproportionate hate Green gets: Sengun is touted as a high IQ rookie, probably the most savy rookie of the draft class. He's been touted by many here as a passing savant who always makes the right plays. Yet his assist to turnover ratio is below one. At least Green's is over 1. But again, it's 10 games so that ratio is rather meaningless.
Sorry, the chucker thing wasn't so much directed at you as it was others I've seen on the board saying/implying as much. Just got wrapped into the post because it was topical. I think some of the grown men stuff was more propagated by the media. I do agree that the 1st pick talk put a target on his back. The ROY is just something I would expect most rookies to set as an expectation for themselves. Ive seen 1 on 1 interviews where he comes off as very self aware of his flaws and he seems very receptive to coaching so I don't mind him having high expectations of himself. The Green stans withe MJ stuff are a bit much but I don't think they're as big in this board as ppl think. They are just loud lol The one thing we 100% agree on is that the coaching staff needs to put him in better positions to succeed ( as should all teams with their rookies)
