He doesn't really have skills, he has athleticism. What he needs to develop are skills. I'm not against playing the young guys to get them experience, but honestly I'd rather see KMJ play over him. Lots of young players "project into a possible all star level" when they are rookies, almost none of them pull it off...because those projections are based on best case scenarios, not realistic expectations.
When you make exaggerated claims like "he doesn't have skills", it's obvious your intention is to instigate. Yes he has skills. His foot work in creating speration off the dribble is a skill. His pnr ball handling is a skill. The problem with Green now is his frame isn't filled out and his timing on when to make the right moves that utilize his skills isn't there. Only NBA rep time can solve that
I think you are being internet harsh there(everything is an extreme over reaction) - I mean this was really the first year you had a few college blue chip talents opting for G-league over college. I would think they would improve coaching this type of player over time since generally the g-league is catering to players who already have at least a year or two of professional development. To your point - clearly they did not do as good a job with Green and Kuminga - seen similar comments echoed by real scouts that they were unimpressed with some of the fundamentals those guys developed. That doesn't ruin them as talents - just delays their development a bit from those who went to a situation geared towards developing other 18yr olds.....but this would also explain A LOT of what we are seeing on the court with Green. I was shocked by how he didn't know how to use a screen in pre-season. He already seems to be understanding that much better - the problem is, there are probably another 3-6 months of fundamentals he is going to be learning "on the job". The expectations are high for him being a #2 pick and that is leading to a lot of frustration but the dude has REAL high end talent but maybe everyone needs to absorb the very reasonable point you mentioned that the G-league didn't accelerate his development as much as we all hoped and thus, he is going to take a little more time to develop....but the dude can still ball and I think still has just as high a ceiling as any other player in this draft. We just aren't going to be able to measure that in 10 games....
I like Giddey - watched him a bit and he is a solid initiator as you mentioned - way better than I realized from pre-draft analysis...but I also think teams are sleeping on him quite a bit. Entire defenses are actively trying to shut down Green - they know who he is and they are going out of their way to check him. He has a target on his back every night in a way that Giddey just does not. That will start to change as Giddey puts people on highlight reels but don't underestimate the motivation of defenders who don't want to be on someone else's highlight reel. Chad Ford and David Thorpe did a podcast the other day and one of their observations is that the reason the Houston backcourt isn't working is because Green and KPJ are too similar - they both are score first types of guys and they recommended a more dedicated facilitator to run opposite Green to get him better looks. I think that's the dynamic you see in OKC with SGA and Giddey but we are holding two SGAs over here in Houston.
Hmmm... playoff games are more exciting. And they bring the Rockets a lot more money and interest than sneaker sales.
I think Mobley would have started in Theis' spot. Not saying that's the correct move but he would have outplayed everyone on this team (possibly even Wood) during scrimmages/practices for Silas to keep him on the bench.
I think players and executives view Cleveland differently from other team bases. The Cavs actually gave Michael Jordan's Bulls a run for their money. Cleveland and Ohio do not sound like the Mecca of basketball and Gilbert has done some ish too. You cannot overlook the Lebron effect and that Curry was born there as well. People overlooked how solid Rubio still is and that Jarrett Allen, Markkanen are good players that can help a youngster out. I think they got overlooked because they are not stars. They are like the Brooklyn before KD arrived.
lol this guy dosen't watch the games. his reading of the game has actually been one of the better parts of his game so far.
Not to mention Garland and Sexton. They are two legit nba guards. People really underestimated Cleveland as a team and situation. They have a number of good players around Mobley. Not to say he hasn't been really good but his fit in that situation was miles better than what Houston has atm.
To be fair while I do agree that Rubio and Markkanen are solid players both weren't on the team when Mobley was drafted. Chances are Cleveland wouldn't be in the situation they are right now if neither trades to acquire both players didn't happen. I'll even say that you put Rubio in the starting PG spot on this team Green would have much better numbers.
Yup, Rubio has no illusions that he is a scorer. He is there to facilitate and he does a pretty damn solid job of it.
Playing elite defense WITHOUT fouling has nothing to do with Cavs legit NBA guards. Rebounding has nothing to do with Cavs guards. Not being turnover prone has nothing to do with Cavs guards. Efficient playmaking, vision and high IQ has nothing to do with Cavs guards. Taking ball coast to coast and actually finishing thru traffic has nothing to do with Cavs guards. 7 footer with 7'5 wingspan has nothing to do with Cavs guards. Mobley was considered a Unicorn by NBA experts for a reason. And he did not give himself that nick.
His readings on PnR has been good. But that's about it. Reads isn't only about making a good pass to your rolling big man on the PnR. Good players should be able to read the entire floor, and most players on our team lack this except for Sengun. Green's reads on defense have also been quite bad, ball watching, losing his men on cuts, not knowing where to position on rebounds or double teams. Again a huge work in progress. On the bright side he doesn't make too many straight up dumb mistakes like throwing it into the crowd, but most of the time it's about not seeing things quickly enough.
You mean in 84-85 when instead of Jordan we drafted that guy who averaged 20.6 points per game on 15.3 field goal attempts? Who also averaged 11.9 rebounds 2.7 blocks and 1.2 steals? Yeah. We were really upset about that. No, seriously. How the hell are you comparing these things?
