It would just be nice if you.made these matter of fact statements once he fills out his frame. Some young guys need more than ten games to be acclimated to the NBA. All I know is between you and me, you are the one making definitive claims about someone's career based on ten games of a rookie campaign.
There was a thread full of crazies making those kinds of predictions. Seems like forever ago because the narrative has shifted and those people pretend they never said those things. Personally I'd love it if he turned things around and stopped being the worst player to get more than garbage time minutes on the team before the season is over. We'll see what happens.
Bradley Beal after 10 games into his rookie season: FG% 32% 3PT% 31.9% FT% 92% RPG 3 APG 1.8 TOV 2 PPG: 11.1
Ya no way a guy that horrible their first ten games of the season would even sniff leading the league in points. I would say at best maybe a 6th man spark plug.
Sengun has looked better and it has nothing to do with more easy buckets. Makes the right play consistently, being in the right spot consistently, playing with max effort on both sides consistently. Vastly better defender and passer. Sengun is also younger, imagine that.
Zach Lavine's first 10 starts in his rookie season: FG% 37.9% 3PT% 17.5% FT% 71.5% RPG: 3.7 APG: 4.6 ToPG: 3.3 PPG: 11.1
I do not see why it is stupid as more than a couple of former 2nd overall picks have been busts. For sure it is too early to judge but possibilites are possibilities. Some people will be right and some will be wrong, that is how this works. Nothing stupid about that. Just because he is such a high pick and such an athletic player does not guarantee him anything. How he deals with hardship mentally will be the key for him going forward. He played 16 games against low tier competition compared to NBA starters that is the G League, 16 games, that was a nice streak at best. I am puzzled at how 16 games in the G league transforms him into an NBA superstar. But okay. TIme will tell.
I'm literally the only poster and maybe a couple.ofothers in this thread that isn't making definitive claims about Green. So why would you point this criticism at me and not the person who literally said "the best he can be is Lou Williams".
Giddey is younger than Green and in a similar situation in okc. Instead of relying on others to create easy opportunities for him, he’s the one generating them for others as is the job of multi dimensional guards. In fact Okc looks better with Giddey running the show than sga, sga is better off playing off of him and focusing on scoring. Mobley and Barnes are bigs, so naturally they are more finisher of plays than initiators, but that’s also what makes them so unique, both are tremendous passers and can initiate. Their teammates are benefiting just as much from their passing as vis versa.
A large part of his fg% being higher is he gets easier looks than Green. That's just the nature of big men. And Sengun's turnover rate is really high. I believe it.kigjt be higher than Green. I don't think that specially has to do with bad decision making but rather his grip on the ball isn't that great as of right now at the age of 19.
I don't think anyone is making full definitive claims about what he will be, just that many of us believed that as a number 2 pick he would be a lot further along as a player. All this has done is reinforce what a JOKE the G-league is.......much worse for development than a year of college under proper coaching. DD
The selling point of his PR team was that he played with Ignite professionally and was more ready than other draftees. That proved to be wrong at least. I am not directing it at you personally. That was some food for thought. Basically what I researched during the pandemic, college players and those who opt to go overseas or play in the G league, some of them had fewer games than they would normally. I am just wondering how that would have affected scouting and evaluating talent. Scouts would have less film material to look at too. I am sure Green will be much better in the 2nd half of the season, I have little doubt about that. It still would not tell you about how good or bad he is. Clarkson is the model here and not Lou. A better Clarkson, another Pinoy.
The real question is how long did it take Beal to become a quality NBA player/borderline star.....and honestly, I am hoping for MORE than Beal at the number 2 pick. DD
Steve Kerr on Jalen Green: “He’s just a freak athlete. Incredibly bouncy and fast, dynamic, and he’s going to be a great player.”
Therein lies the problem--people's expectations are warped because he was the 2nd pick in the draft. This fanbase has enjoyed years and years of playoff appearances and being in title contention that they don't know what a 2nd pick looks like, especially in a draft that offered no talent that was deemed/labeled/identified as transcendent like a LeBron or a Duncan. Guards taken in the top 3 in the past 10 years and how they fared in their first 10 games: 2011: Kyrie Irving FG% 47%; 3PT% 35.6%; FT% 93%; RPG: 3.4; APG: 5.2; ToPG: 3.2; PPG 16.6; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 5 2012: Bradley Beal FG% 32%; 3PT% 31.9%; FT% 92%; RPG 3; APG 1.8; ToPG: 2; PPG: 11.1; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 6 2013: Victor Oladipo (came off the bench the first 10 games) FG%: 39.8%; 3PT% 42%; FT% 66%; RPG: 3.7; APG: 3.3; ToPG: 4; PPG: 11.7; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 5 2015: D'Angelo Russell FG%: 39.6%; 3PT% 29%; FT% 60%; RPG: 4; APG: 2.8; ToPG: 1.6; PPG: 9.2; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 9 2016: Jaylen Brown (only started 3 out of the first 10 games) FG%: 40%; 3PT% 22%; FT% 77.8%; RPG: 2.4: APG: 1; ToPG: .67; PPG: 7; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 5 2017: Markell Fultz (zero starts; missed a chunk of the season due to the yips) FG%: 36%; 3PT% 0%; FT% 50%; RPG: 2.4; APG: 3.3; ToPG: 1; PPG: 6.5; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 5 Lonzo Ball FG%: 25%; 3PT% 19.9%; FT% 47.2%; RPG: 6.4; APG: 6.9; ToPG: 2.4; PPG: 8.8; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 4 2018: Luka Doncic FG%: 47.5%; 3PT% 38.3%; FT% 66%; RPG: 6.6; APG: 4.4; ToPG: 4.1; PPG: 19.8; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 4 2019: Ja Morant FG%: 46%; 3PT%: 42.6%; FT%: 73%; RPG: 3.3; APG: 5.8; ToPG: 4; PPG: 18.3; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 5 2020: Anthony Edwards (came off the bench first 10 games) FG%: 39%; 3PT%: 28.3%; FT% 82.7%; RPG: 2.9; APG: 2; ToPG: 2; PPG 13.6; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 7 LaMelo ball (came off the bench first 10 games) FG%: 41%; 3PT%: 35.5%; FT% 69.8%; RPG: 6.3; APG: 59.9; ToPG: 2.1; PPG 12.8; Number of "minus games" (+/-): 4 Green is who he is at this point and that's a 19 year old rookie still trying to figure out the NBA game all the while not having the responsibility/luxury of having the ball in his hands to create more like recent players like Luka or Morant or LaMelo. Of course Green's also not a point guard so his production so far lines up with the shooting guards from this list like Edwards, Beal, Oladipo, etc.
There is nothing magical about the number 2 pick that makes them busts more often. It's little more than a superstition tbh
