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(Controversial) Silas chooses KPJ over Green to end game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatBoyNick, Nov 6, 2021.

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What would YOU, yes YOU have done?

  1. PLAYED BOTH

    66 vote(s)
    44.9%
  2. BENCHED GREEN

    21 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. BENCHED KPJ

    35 vote(s)
    23.8%
  4. BENCHED BOTH

    25 vote(s)
    17.0%
  1. bmelo

    bmelo Member

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    And it took yall one and half a year to that conclusion? He will be good player for sure but hes not Jason Kidd out there and never will. Hes more of a McCollum type
     
  2. daywalker02

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    Lmao, he is not even that. He has a long way to go.

    So much inconsistency within an inconsistent team.
     
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  3. bmelo

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    I felt like Green was really gassed. Trust me when every opponent has 20+ kilos on you then you can be good like MJ you wont be very impactful. He losses so much energy on defense due to being small that he has No legs on jumpshots. He probably should do squats and deadlifts everyday with HGH D-Wade speciality and he will be beast in a year
     
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  4. bmelo

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    I said McCollum type. He is nowhere near McCollum skill. I really like McCollum and he is the reason i dont buy all this Dame got No help bs
     
  5. JayZ750

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    “Do you even watch?”
    “He was leading them in scoring!!!”

    so… YOU didn’t watch and just looked at stats??

    Theis was also -7 while Alpi was +8 [lots of other factors in here]

    there are 96 mpg of action between C and PF positions. Wood/Theis played a combined 67. Alpi got less than half of the remaining minutes.
     
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    Didn't take me that long na. I'm looking at him from a mental standpoint. It's nice that he loves Houston and has a diverse skill set. Just playing point to me looks like too much for him. His jumpshot looks horrid. I saw him pull up for a mid range jumper late in the game and the miss was so bad. He's a guy you can't depend on to show up consistently and play a game that's under control.
     
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  7. daywalker02

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    McCollum isn't that athletic or really long. KPJ's attributes are the opposite, he is real athletic and a leaper.

    McCollum is a very consistent shooter from range, KPJ is nowhere near his level here too.

    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/kevin-porter/

    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/kevin-porter/
     
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  8. rockets1995

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    For the Last Shot, I think this group plays unselfish

    PG Jalen Green
    SG Eric Gordon
    SF Armoni Brooks
    PF KJ Martin
    C Alperen Sengun

    All Selfish Lineup, Low IQ for the Last Shot,
    Very Disappointed in Stephen Silas lack of IQ

    PG Kevin Porter Jr
    SG Eric Gordon
    SF Jaesean Tate
    PF Christian Wood
    C Daniel Theis
     
  9. SamFisher

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    No i watched it on LP and he was easily the best player last night - I don't like the Theis signing but it's obvious to any human.

    Mind you my interest here is really just pointing out how clownish your critiques are - "how come our best player on offense/defense wasn't immediately yanked for an inferior player to close out the game" more or less epitomizes the level of discussion you bring to the table.

    Granted there's a chance you might even be right that Silas isn't a good coach, by sheer coincidence..... but your trash takes are so superficial and bad ("john lucas is good because at least it looks like he's btrying") it makes mid 00s @DaDakota look like Daryl Morey and Masai Ujiris baby.
     
  10. rockets1995

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    I hope Stephen Silas gets fired next year mid-season. This guy is terrible in Rotations and not trusting Jalen Green, Alperen Sengun, KJ Martin, Armoni Brooks at the end of games.
     
  11. cheke64

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    Silas needs to step up when they keep making boneheaded plays, it's neverending and as a coach thats what you have to do. Silas is the type to be afraid on confrontation.

    I won a youth league championship yesterday by calling a timeout and telling one of the players to settle down. He just became a ballhogging chucker and causing so many turnovers. I get it, you wan to impress your parents but you're not a ballhandler

    Im coaching up 10 year olds better than the NBA. I had 7 players in double figures.
     
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    Yeah, the old Suns had many in double figures.
     
  13. JayZ750

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    good news is at least I’m capable of critical reading. You’re reading comprehension skills are the level of a 2nd grader… which is super scary because aren’t you a lawyer? Aren’t you supposed to, you know, actually read words?

    you spent pages in the coaching thread basically being like “how would that help them win more!” after every post I made where I said I don’t care if they win more.

    here you’re going on and on about Daniel Theis… I didn’t even mention Theis in my post.
     
  14. SamFisher

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  15. JayZ750

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    On par for the typical value of one of your posts. Useless.
     
  16. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    I'm kind of there with you. I wouldn't go so far as saying I don't like wood and KPJ. I like KPJ as a potential 6th man. I like wood as a center and as a 3rd option on offense. I don't think I'd like wood if he signed a max extension, so depending on how extension talks go I'd be ok trading him or keeping him if the price is right. going a little off topic but I guess I'd wait to see who we draft. the top of the draft is mostly bigs. if we get Chet, banchero, Duran, nzosa, jovic, then they basically replace him the way drafting green immediately moved gordon to the bench and wall out of the rotation.

    the only guys I see as Pilars of the future are:

    C - sengun
    SG - green
    PF- 2022 top 5 pick (likely a PF and likely a top 5 pick)

    Wood and KPJ depend on price and willingness to accept a reduced role moving forward.
     
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    Or because Sengun doesn't know his fundamentals and cant complete simple layups or defend
     
  18. JayZ750

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    On a team of meh defenders he has the second best Drtg and DBPM on the team. This shouldn’t surprise anyone that’s watched the games. The only better player in both stats is Garuba (who has barely played).

    Sengun is not Dikembe defensively and it helps when he doesn’t have to go against starters all the time… but or anyone to say he can’t defend as t been watching.

    Bball reference says he’s shooting 70% at the rim… but it also says he’s shooting loke 12% from 3 to 10 feet and not amazingly on layups so it’s a little contradictory there. I’m guessing they count some 3+ feet shots as layups. In either case … eye test says he’s missed some he clearly shoind have made.
     
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    So you admit you're a crackhead then, good to know.
     
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  20. Stephen_A

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    I don’t understand the evolution of Wood and KPJ who had much promise Last season. KPJ has regressed quite a bit seemingly not seeing the court as well as last year and not finishing in the paint as well. And we know about the terrible turnovers and recklessness. I’m not sure what he worked on in the summer. From the workout videos I’ve seen he’s really focused on harden like footwork and individual moves like step backs and side step jumpers and threes. Also he’s focused on handles. I’m not sure if he focused on getting better overall as a point guard and these first 8 games show it.

    Wood on the other hand was supposed to go through strength and conditioning and gain mass but that hasn’t happened as he is the same size. He couldn’t even post Jeff green deep in the paint. I want people to realize if you’re that deep in the paint points will happen but he couldn’t move green and lost the ball. Not sure what the issue is. Can we get dream to work with him? It’s hard watching wood who really doesn’t do much on offense but dunks and step back threes from what I’ve seen this year. He too seems to have regressed. One plus I’ve seen from him is rebounding and aggressiveness on the boards. But again these dudes aren’t working on their whole game. Frustrating.
     
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