#fakenews Chances decrease for vaccinated folks. Also, long term effects of COVID are more proven than the vaccination - and there are serious ones from COVID. Also, taking ivermectin (even human based) to prevent/treat COVID is more experimental than the vaccine.
This is not for you because there is nothing to actually discuss with you. This is to anyone else who actually cares about facts. Yes the longterm effects of the vaccines are not known but so are the longterm effects of getting COVID-19, or drugs that were not intended to be used as anti-virals and have not been thoroughly tested for anti-virals. My friend Emily Jensen (She has spoken publicly about this so no problem sharing her name) got COVID-19 early in the pandemic. She was a runner and a surfer. Even now she gets tired frequently and winded climbing stairs. Two weeks ago we were going to go to a corn maze but she backed out because she was worried she would get winded just spending an hour walking through the maze. You can read about her and other's experience about long haul COVID here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/three-...e-still-ravaged-by-covids-fallout-11593612004 On the other hand I stopped doing Judo and waited until after I got vaccinated. That was back in April. Since I've shedded most of my COVID fat I'm back to being able to roll as I was before. One of the Dojos I train at requires people to be vaccinated and those guys are as tough as they were before the pandemic and there's been no reports of people becoming magnetic or developing blood clots. So yes COVID-19 is a novel disease so the treatments are novel. what we can tell though in the about 10 months since vaccines have widely been available is that the chances of getting seriously ill are far greater not vaccinated and that getting COVID-19 there is a much larger chance of long haul symptoms than the chance of developing any severe or long haul symptoms from the vaccines.
Bro, listen! How are long term effects of Covid more proven than the vaccination when neither one of them are even 2 years old?? Listen to yourself. You aren't making any kind of sense. How are you arguing long term in less than 2 years of experience?? Like I've been saying, common sense just ain't common no more.
Seriously? As I've mentioned before, my young friend has heart problems she never had before after having COVID mid last year that she will have to deal with the rest of her life. She is not alone. They're are plenty of folks suffering with long-haul COVID effects as well.
What we don't know unfortunately is how much vaccines stop the risk for long covid once infected. Since we're all going to get infected at some point regardless of vaccination status, long covid is going to be a problem for many many people. Some of the studies show vaccination having a 50% reduction in long covid cases, some 40%, some as low as 20%. That's with relatively recent vaccination as well. Here's to hoping for the best for everybody
Yes again we don't know for sure what the risk of long haul COVID even if you're vaccinated. That goes to that the vaccines are not 100% effective. That still isn't an excuse to not get vaccinated. All evidence points to that the vaccines both reduce the chance of getting infection and reduce the chance of severe COVID-19 symptoms. Generally mild cases of COVID-19 haven't led to long haul symptoms.
Aaron Rodgers has made me understand to some extent how those who quit watching the NFL feel. After hearing that the NFL and Packers might've known his vaccination status and just gave him a pass anyway isn't making me want to watch the NFL or any football. I think today I'm just going to skip watching any games.
Most of the same folks who quit watching after the kneeling, celebrate what Rodgers and the Packers did.
Agreed except for this, more severe Covid may be tied to even higher chances of long Covid, but mild and asymtompatic Covid cases have a very significant chance at developing long term health issues according to many reports and studies. It’s pretty scary, and sad, many many people all around the world are going to have long term health effects regardless of vaccination, or strength of infection. People can try to lower to odds but from the studies I’ve read the odds for even non symptomatic vaccinated individuals having long term Covid issues is significant. Maybe the antivirals coming out now can make a difference, or that most long term issues become treatable or resolve in some ways.
I’m not saying I sympathize with them ideologically just that I sympathize with not wanting to watch the NFL over something not having to do with thr quality of play.
I would love for a Wisconsin doctor to have a press conference about how hours of football research and a friendship with a flapjack chef have led him to conclude that he knows how to throw a football better than Aaron Rodgers.
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Mostly curious, but did those ivermectin advocates recant, remain silent, or kept on truckin with their insanity? Hundreds of thousands of like-minded folks have fallen yet no violent outrage civil gun toting protests against pure quackery. Is it... resignation to God's Will, pride to admit not being wrong/letting tricksy libs "win", or a nobler straight up bitter dose of personal responsibility? I'm facinated by this since a company malfunction that can kill 10s of people can spark the highest orders of outrage and recompense, yet the victims families remain silent in its wake and sometimes vigilant against ICU workers serving as messengers. I kind of feel like if ivermectin is taken as a Last Resort, some kind of spell or brainwashing has been performed for them to utterly dismiss vaccines as a form of voodoo. Reminds me of a class i took long ago when the instructor lamented that some tribes in South America refused to add small doses of Chlorine into their warer supply because the elders heard it was a carcinogen and a known poison. So hundreds of people and infants died yearly from water sickness and parasites that could've been prevented. She sounded a bit arrogant and dismissive of their culture since they didn't listen to the data but here we are in 2021...it doesn't matter the time or place. People are people.
Oh they kept up with the ivermectin both as a preventive and as a treatment. One is my niece who is 28 and the other is her husband who is around her age. Her husband also asked my wife one time why she wasn't gay because we have gay friends and support gay marriage. Not sure where that question came from. Ironically, he has a gay sister.
