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[Official] Astros Off-Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 3, 2021.

  1. J.R.

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  2. Nick

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    That will be good.

    Other than the hotels and apartments right next to MMP, there hasn't been a lot of the bar/restaurant developments. Eado is great... but its still a good 5-10 min walk to the entrance.

    Granted, the Astros will own all the revenue from this new development... and will likely stifle any other competition that tries to build near the stadium.
     
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  3. Chilly_Pete

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    Well I already miss baseball.
     
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    What is everyone thoughts on packaging Alex Bregman for some pitching and use of of that money that we would owe Bregman for Correa.

    I am starting to feel like Bregman is starting to become injury prone and ever since the cheating scandal, he has lost all of his mojo….
     
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  5. Redfish81

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    Just stop... Bregman is owed 74 million the next 3 years. His trade value is minimal. Astros are better off hoping he rebounds than selling low or even having to eat money to move him.
     
  6. BMoney

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    Is his defense a given?
     
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    A given.
     
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    Not necessarily disagreeing with your point of view, but it’s a different angle to explore also.
     
  9. javal_lon

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    Either put Javier in the starting rotation or trade him in a package for a catcher that can hit...
     
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  10. ktex

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    Pena scares me, he strikes out a ton. Doesn't fit the typical Astros mold.
     
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    Why give up Javier for 1 year of catcher?

    They aren't going to block Lee....
     
  12. No Worries

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    Jeremy Pena was considered the top defensive SS in his college class. The big question was his bat, which he appears to have worked hard to fix.
     
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    Astros can effectively lose Correa and get better at center/catcher/SP and the team will improve.
     
  14. Major

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    Looking at next year, you're not going to improve at all 3 of those spots for less than the $30ish MM you'd pay Correa. Where the Correa deal hurts is longer term - but looking at the next few years in isolation, $30MM/yr is going be better spent on Correa than a combo of other players. On Baseball Reference, Correa had 7.3 WAR - using the old $8MM/WAR estimate, that would cost $58MM to replace (simplifying things a bit obviously). That also doesn't consider that Meyers is probably not a 0 WAR player and is basically free right now, or that you'd be replacing one of our 6 non-0 WAR SPs to get a new SP, and most likely it would be one of the cheap ones (Garcia, Urquidy, or Javier).
     
  15. Snake Diggit

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    Will be very interesting to see if Houston makes any moves next week. They have 38 players on their 40 man roster and have to protect at least 4 guys from the Rule 5 draft. If Verlander accepts the QO then that makes 39. The only non-tender/DFA candidates I see are Rafael Montero and Seth Martinez. Would hate to see them lose guys with value (guys like Jones, Nova, Emanuel, Scrubb) to waiver claims and get nothing in return. Maybe we could see a trade similar to the Cionel Perez-Luke Berryhill trade last offseason; that one has worked out well so far.
     
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    Nothing you said is really wrong here, but the Astros can't take the next few years in isolation when the decision to bring back Correa effects the next decade or so. You can't really pencil him in for 7.3 WAR every year either. That's like expecting every year for Yordan to be 2019 level production. Correa had a special season considering his extremely high level defense and very good hitting. Look how far Bregman fell from 2019 to 2021 for example.

    I think they will keep Jones and probably Scrubb too. Nova, Emanuel, Solis, Ivey, Bielak, Martinez, Stubbs, and Monterro I could see off the 40 man roster one way or another.
     
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    If you take his average WAR for his career, you get 5.3 WAR, which is $40m value on an annual basis. That changes nothing about Major's analysis. The team is much better next year, and for the next several years, using that money to re-sign their own player, rather than attempting to replace his production at other positions. Especially when you figure that players tend to peak at 27, which is Correa's age next year.
     
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    To me, Taylor Jones is a prime candidate to be traded to a team that has a hole to fill, and believes in him for a few mid-level prospects, a la JD Davis.

    Bielak, Stubbs, Paredes, Abreu, and James as well. Or they can be packaged as part of a trade for a bigger piece.
     
  19. jjsmooth

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    Please stop. This is nonsense. You do not use a mean for a highly skewed distribution. A median is much more useful, because it eliminates the effect of the obviously horrible contracts (which is what horribly skews the data). The median would probably be more like $5M/WAR. Dont believe me; go ask your stats 101 teacher. Or Google it.
     
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  20. Major

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    Absolutely - I was just arguing against the idea that you could spend the money you'd save letting him go and be better by spending it on multiple players. There's definitely a short vs long term impact to take into account, but it's doubtful that letting Correa go makes the team better in the next couple of years based on having extra money to spend elsewhere.
     

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