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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    The NFL has a decision to make pretty soon...

     
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    In case anyone doubts the quotes... here is the interview with QAaron Rodgers...

     
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    based Aaron Rodgers

     
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    Bro trying to distance himself from Kyrie even though Kyrie somehow sounds like a more rational person than Aaron Rodgers right now.
     
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    Aaron Rodgers on Pat McAfee Show:



    I realize I’m in the crosshairs of the woke mob right now. Before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket, I’d like to set the record straight on so many of the blatant lies out there about myself right now.

    First off, I didn’t lie during the initial press conference. During that time, there was a witch hunt across the league where everyone in the media was so concerned about who was vaccinated, who wasn’t, what that meant, who was being “selfish”, who would talk about it,…at the time, my plan was to say I’ve been immunized. It wasn’t some sort of ruse or lie. It was the truth.

    Had there been a follow up to my statement I’ve been immunized, I would have said this…

    “I’m not some sort of anti-vax flat earther. I’m somebody who is a critical thinker. I march to beat of my own drum. I believe strongly in bodily autonomy and ability to makechoices for your body. Not having to acquiesce to some woke culture or crazed group of individuals who say you have to do something. Health is not a one size fits all for everybody. For me, it involved a lot of study in the offseason. Much like study for hosting Jeopardy or weekly study I put into playing the game. I put a lot of time, energy and research and met with a lot of people in the medical field to get the most information about the vaccines before making a decision.”

    In actuality, it was easy to eliminate two of them. It didn’t involve going into the questionable history of some of their criminal activity and fraud cases or any of that stuff. It was the fact I have an allergy in an ingredient from the mRNA vaccine. … So those two are out. My only option was Johnson & Johnson. At this time in early spring, I heard people had adverse effects. No deaths or anything but some really difficult times & physical abnormalities around the J&J shot. Then in mid-April, the J&J got pulled for clotting issues if you remember that.

    My options became what can I do to protect myself & teammates if there’s not one of the big three options? I looked into and talked to medical professionals and found there was an immunization protocol that I could go to to best protect myself and my teammates. It was a long term protocol that involved multiple months. I’m very proud of the research that went into that. … It was not something the league didn’t know about. They were fully aware of it. At that point, I petitioned them to accept my immunization status. If you weren’t in the vaccinated category, you were in a different category with draconian measures & protocols, which weren’t based on science. More shamed base, trying to get as many guys vaccinated so the league looks better to the rest of the world. That was the focus of these protocols.

    So I petitioned the league. Initially they said no, you’ll be unvaccinated. … After they came back and said “No, you’re unvaxed”, I said “OK, I’m going to appeal this.” Asked for time to gather information. Gathered over 500 pages of research on the efficacy of immunizations, all the latest research surrounding my case, everything from mask wearing to the efficacy of vaccines and duration of the antibodies, just all the latest research from my medical team. In that process, we had many conversations, enjoyed conversations with the league but one in particular stood out when I knew I wouldn’t win this. I had a meeting and one of the main docs(doctors) said ‘It’s impossible for a vaccinated person to get COVID or spread COVID.” At that point I knew I wouldn’t win the appeal. Shortly after, it was denied. Which we know now, that information is totally false.

    My desire to immunize myself was what was best for my body. … I’m not telling someone to not get vaccinated or to get vaccinated. … … I made a decision in my best interest. … The next great chapter in my life I believe is being a father. There’s been zero long term studies around sterility or fertility issues around the vaccine. That was definitely something I was worried about. … We don’t know the long term effects. When people say “Just get the jab! Just get the jab!” One, everyone’s body is different and two, there’s a lot of different things we don’t know about this.

    The organization, my teammates knew my status. Nothing that was hidden. During the time of preseason was the time of the appeal. … Some rules are not based on science, purely on trying to out and shame people. Like needing to wear a mask at a podium when every person in the room is vaccinated and is masked. Makes no sense to me. If you get vaccinated to protect yourself from a virus that I don’t have as an unvaccinated individual, then why are you worried about anything I can give you?

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    The media is trying to shame, out and cancel all of us non-vaccinated people. Call us selfish. That’s the propaganda line. You’re “selfish” for making the best decision for your own body. … … The league didn’t offer any opportunity for alternative medicines or treatments. The thing that is so disappointing is that it was not just that but it was the coercion and collusion of GMs saying they won’t sign non-vaccinated players. … You’re seeing mandates for police officers, fire fighters, government workers. What about my body, my choice? What about making the best decision for my circumstance? Health is not a one size fits all. … It’s pretty evident I tested positive being around a vaccinated individual. … This idea it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated is a total lie.

    I go back to these two questions for the woke mob:
    1) If vaccine is so great, how come people are still getting COVID and spreading COVID and unfortunately dying from COVID?
    2) If it’s so safe, how come vaccine manufacturers have full immunity?

    To say it’s blanket for all that ails you is wrong and reckless.

    For the media out there taking shots at me, you don’t know my story, now you do. Stop lying about me.

    Personal health decisions should be private. … Bodily autonomy is a right. The shaming and outing people get off on on finding the unvaccinated, everyone has their own story, their own issues but this shaming, cancel society is wrong.

    I made a choice in my best interest. The same people that hate it will really hate the fact I’m 48 hours in and I consulted with a now good friend of mine Joe Rogan and been doing a lot of stuff he recommended in his podcasts and on the phone to me. I’m gonna have the best immunity now based on that people who get COVID and recover have the most robust immunity. I’m thankful for people like Joe stepping up and using their voice, my medical squad and the love/support I’ve gotten.

    I’ve been taking monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, zinc, vitamin C and D, HCQ and I feel pretty incredible.
     
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    … …

    It shouldn’t be that Trump endorsed HCQ and ivermectin so take that **** off, it doesn’t work.

    When Trump in 2020 was championing these vaccines, what did every member of the left say? Don’t trust the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine, you’re gonna die from the vaccine.

    What happens? Biden wins and everything flips.

    Shouldn’t that give you pause? Isn’t this **** about health and not politics?

    Has any member of the health staff this entire time got up and talked about real health, exercise, a heathy diet, eating real food, drinking water, taking vitamins? Vitamin D deficiency? No. There hasn’t been any of that. I’m gonna critically think about what’s best for my own health. I’m not judging anyone else.



    The great MLK said “You have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules and rules that make no sense.” … The NFL policies aren’t rooted in science.

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    I don’t think I have to test now for 90 days. … I have taken this very seriously. I’m not a COVID denier. I wanted to make a decision best for my body. I wear my mask when I go out in public. Only time I don’t is when I’m around all vaccinated people. My response to them is one, I tested this morning and two, you got vaccinated against something you worry about me having which I just told you I’m negative.



    We need to remember health is not the same for everyone. It’s not a one size fits all. I strongly believe in autonomy over one’s body and what’s in your best interest. It’s crazy to have these mandates. … The vaccines do offer some protection for sure but there’s a lot we don’t know about them, a lot we don’t know about waning antibody counts. Now conversations about needing 3rd/4th booster shots.

    There’s a lot to natural immunity. Natural immunity has not been a part of the conversation. The latest studies show importance of natural immunity. If you got COVID & recovered, that’s the best boosted immunity you can have.

    This is a pandemic of health, as much as it is a virus that mutates. The most important thing is educating people to live a healthier life. Not putting a blanket over it with a vaccine, which creates a spike protein which recognizes one specific strand of a virus that is made to mutate. How about we teach people how to be healthy? Until that is the conversation, nothing is gonna happen. Conversation will be I’m non-vaxed and the right will champion me and the left will cancel me. I don’t give a **** about either of them. Politics is a total sham. I’m not gonna go on FOX News like I wouldn’t go on CNN. Zero desire to do any of that. The only desire I have is to power people to have autonomy over your body. You have that right. It should be an unalienable right for all people. …

    If you fear the virus and want to get vaccinated, go for it. If you have comorbidities, go for it. If you’re healthy and have a strong immune system, keep building it. Do what’s best for your body. That opinion doesn’t work because we given away billions of dollars to the pharmaceutical companies and it’s not gonna stop. Merck is coming out with a pill. Pfizer is coming out with a pill. It’s basically the expensive version of ivermectin. Why do people hate ivermectin? Not just because Trump championed it. It’s a cheap generic, can’t make money off it. It’s been used a billion times in India. Go look at that research.



    The situation I’m in should be a conversation, not a controversy. I made a decision based on what’s best for my body. … I’m here to continue the conversation. … I feel really good. If this were the flu, there’s no reason I wouldn’t play on Sunday. I’m very excited for Jordan (Love). …

    I hope we can take a step back, quit lying, quit the witch hunt and canceling. This is a conversation to be had, not a controversy. Let’s move this forward with love and connection. Things we don’t agree on or understand, let’s communicate instead of silencing or canceling someone. That gets us nowhere. … You wanna live in an echo chamber, go for it, but that’s not way to move society forward. Talk & reach across the aisle. … I made a decision in best interest of my body. If you have a problem with that, there’s nothing I can say other than this was my decision, this was best for my body, I’m sorry you feel that way.


     
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    Follow up, Mr. Rodgers... what main document did you read that said this:

    One of the main docs said ‘It’s impossible for a vaccinated person to get COVID or spread COVID.”

    I have never seen any company or reputable medical person say that. Not one.
     
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    I’ve been taking monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, zinc, vitamin C and D, HCQ and I feel pretty incredible.

    The "I don't trust these pharma results so I've been taking other pharma-made things, many proven not to work and be actively harmful as well as not as tested" is always the tell of true Galacticus Roganus Cerebrum idiot.
     
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    My next followup, Mr. Rodgers

    What exactly did you take to immunize yourself? You mention ivermectin, HCQ, vitamins, but I THINK you're talking about after you got COVID. What were you taking to immunize yourself?
     
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    That's the rallying cry of every single anti-vaxxer or "free thinker" I've ever met. Not only is there no qualified person that's claimed this vaccine would make it impossible for you to get COVID, there's no qualified person that's ever claimed that about ANY vaccine that's readily available today. Anti-intellectualism has been rebranded as "free thinking" and it's the most damaging thing that's happened in the world in a long, long time.
     
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    Goes to show u can have all the money in the world and still b a dumbass.

    At least kyrie took a stand on his belief, Rodgers out here flat out lying about his immunization status to play.

    There's a reason y the league created a sht ton of rules to protect the players from unvaccinated players. Rodgers is such a devious person, basically one of those idiots that flashes around their fake immunization cards to get around vaccinations mandate.

    More respect to kyrie than this lying ass.
     
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    Joe Rogan who injects a slew of chemicals into his body (testosterone, human growth hormone, steroids, and gods knows what else) would be the very last person I would talk to about medical advice.
     
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    Vax was a game-changer. This would be the closer if it holds. With two of them quite effective, chances are good.

    5 days course that should be taken within 5 days of symptoms (Phase2/3 tested 3 days and 5 days and the results are about the same). Not a huge sample, but great results. 3/389 hospitalized with no deaths vs 27/385 hospitalized with 7 deaths. Less side effects vs placebo.

    The only effective treatment today is monoclonal antibody infusion. Extremely expensive to admin, ~70% eff, and very specific to a variant. This one is a pill you can take at home, ~90% eff, and is NOT specific to a variant.

    US taxpayer is paying 100% of the infusion treatment today. FDA needs to hurry up and review the data of this and the other Covid antiviral from Merck for approval and we should eventually transition over to these antivirals. Also critically important for countries that don't have full access to covid vax.

    https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...l-covid-19-oral-antiviral-treatment-candidate

    https://www.merck.com/news/merck-an...to-placebo-for-patients-with-mild-or-moderat/
     
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    Just piss poor deflection. First off the NFL is allowing unvaccinated players play. Kirk Cousins is still playing. This is more than just being an unvaxxed this is about misleading your team and fans becuause you couldn’t stand the scrutiny.
     
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