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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Commodore

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    several states have or are about to ban employer vaccine mandates, so this will be challenged in court quickly
     
  2. Commodore

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    It’s not imposed on the entire country.

    Congress already voted to allow OSHA the power to protect health. Our system allow court challenges to those that believe OSHA was not given this power to require vax or testing/masking.

    Congress can also vote to narrow the power they granted OSHA.

    There are much greater examples of fundamental “undemocratic” actions that I have not seen you care much about - anything that suppress the right to vote or the power of fair representation by each voter. Gerrymandering, voter restrictions and control, unbalanced representations resulting in minority rule, lobbyist and corporate power massive influence of politicians, …
     
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  5. coachbadlee

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    Ice Cube says "No Vaxeline!!"
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    Fauci flip-flops more than a fish out of water.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    We are going to pass a million deaths quite possibly before the end of the year. Many many of those deaths could and can be prevented.
     
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  8. Invisible Fan

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    Many drunk driving deaths can be prevented, yet it still happens.

    T&P goes out to the unvaccinated victims, but if hospitals aren't overwhelmed it's really their own stupid/selfish inaction doing them in.
     
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    The problem is that there are still many who can't get vaccinated not by choice but because of compromised immune systems. At the same time even if ICU's aren't overwhelmed medical resources still will be spent on people getting severely ill from COVID-19.
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    Well if you're going to go door to door to vacinate, I'm not one of them.

    Good luck with that.

    If they want to die on their own spit to thump their chests or 'own fraidy cat libs' (before the oh so late deathbed vaccine conversion), that's still their right.

    Part of what makes the under-70 booster debate so interesting is that if there ever was a push/drive to get one, it's to "save" the folks who don't even have their first shot.

    **** that.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not going door to door to vaccinate but I'm not just going to say "whatevs.." about those who aren't getting vaccinated. A pandemic by nature is a society wide problem.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yep...leave it up to the company. If they want to mandate them, let them. If they don't, don't force them.
     
  14. coachbadlee

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    I'm hearing 97.1% of the Covid deaths in Italy were due to other causes and not Covid.
     
  15. Commodore

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    Forget about all those other conditions that they lied about and linked to Covid. This is the truth from one of our own right here in Houston.

     
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  17. bobrek

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    Link to this news you're hearing?
     
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    There are so many things flawed with the pandemic's messaging that goes beyond the immediate issues.

    There is still an availability issue with vaccines but since we're in the 1 billion that treats it like disposable tap water we don't see or think outside our borders. Even getting the rest of the world on par with our less than mediocre vax rate would reduce mutation worries moreso than winning a pointless internet debate between people not in the medical field.

    What you feel concerned about is more about messaging or education, subjective traits that undecided or unvaccinated would rather believe JoeBob on FB rather than use the full power of having the World's information at their fingertips.

    "Talk to your doctor instead...right but...I still don't trust 'unproven mRNA tech'"
    "The J&J formula is traditional vax tech and one shot...right but...I found an online doctor who can prescribe hair delicer off label!"

    This debate has been twisted and parsed by both sides and i doubt most people have the mental bandwidth or agility to keep track of something that's slippery and ever evolving as Covid.

    "We're enforcing quarantines, self isolation, and vax mandates to flatten the curve...right but...the curve is now flattening yet these policies are still on the table"
    "We're considering promoting a third shot that won't address variants beyond delta and won't tell you your original shot is still significant at reducing chance at hospitalizations...right but... it'll reduce infection rate for a few months and can save the historically poor, the stupid, or a minority of immunocompromised by reducing your chances of infecting them"

    The latter group's message is sneaky in the scope of urgency. You can call it whatevs but we went from extraordinary circumstances that required emergency measures (mortgage forebearance, shutdowns, and income assistance) to a more tolerable 'normal' (as measured by our healthcare infrastructure) that we are all still bitterly figuring out.

    You might rightly think the death rate is still too high or our vax rates are too low for herd immunity but being right doesn't justify us continuing last year's policies. You can't and should not argue with those extraordinary circumstances in mind. We are one or two levels below because of vaccines but civil liberties should be paid more attention to compared to what we went through last year.

    If you can wade through all that crap and reach across that aisle, more power to you but it's not as cut and dried as being portrayed online or on the networks.
     
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    If they were due to other causes, then they weren't Covid Deaths.

    It seems like you are getting reports from unreliable sources.
     
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    Lol bring it.
     

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