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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. No Worries

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    Vaccination Offers Better Protection Than Previous COVID-19 Infection

    A new study from the [CDC] finds that vaccination provides better protection against hospitalization with COVID-19 than a previous infection with the virus. The analysis found people hospitalized with coronavirus-like symptoms were more than five times more likely to test positive for COVID-19 if they had had recent prior infection than if they were recently vaccinated. The study released Friday examined more than 7,000 people across nine states and 187 hospitals, comparing those who were unvaccinated and had previously had the coronavirus in the last three to six months and those who were vaccinated over the same time frame.

    The CDC urged even those who were previously infected to get their shots. [...] Overall, [CDC Director Rochelle Walensky] said at a press briefing earlier this week that the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated people is 12 times higher than for vaccinated people. The vaccination rate for those 12 and older has now reached 78 percent with at least one shot, but Walensky noted that still leaves more than 60 million eligible Americans unvaccinated.
     
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  4. NewRoxFan

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    Then fire stations close. Ironic that people who have chosen a career to protect the community then choose to not work because they don't want to take a vaccination to protect the community, all for politics. But this is where we are now after the trump presidency...
     
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    Scared of a shot but not scared of dying of Covid or spreading it in the community to people they render aid to. It's politics, thanks to that party of Trump. They should be fired. Replace them. Who cares. They can sit at home watching Fox news while wearing MAGA hats and their My Body My Choice Tshirts like the rest of the cult.
     
  7. Commodore

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    Covid can't spread when taking photos

    #science

     
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  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Maybe they're just being consistent, as in, "hey, since I don't give enough of a **** about the community to get a recommended vaccine, like I used too for measles and stuff, why the heck am I going to put out other people's burning houses any more? **** that! this selfish thing is fun. maybe I'll go work on wall street!"
     
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  9. B-Bob

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    I can't believe you've posted a tweet that can lead me to defend CNN, an outlet I loathe. But what's hard to understand here?

    I'd rather not fly and it's safer to not fly, but sometimes I have to fly to see family and sometimes it's worth it to go do something fun like a vacation.
    Same with driving.
    Same with drinking booze on occasion. Much healthier overall to avoid it.

    So, you take precautions with COVID. You get the vaccine. You work with people who also get the vaccine. You wear masks a lot of the time indoors to further lower your risk for breakthrough transmission. But exposure time is important. If you want to sip a cup of coffee, or if you want to take a group photo with, you know, people's faces, maybe people are willing to roll those dice, given the other smart things they're doing.

    Bunch of nor-cal counties are moving away from recommending masks indoors to small businesses, and people are dining indoors again. You just follow the numbers and determine reasonable risks.

    I don't know. Most of what CNN does is pretty dumb, but a quick staff photo at this point in the pandemic is not an especially dumb thing.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I remember when Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers who went on strike.
     
  11. cheke64

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    There's a mysterious cough illness going around that's nobody talking about. They test negative and this lingers for months.
     
  12. Ubiquitin

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    Pertussis?
     
  13. B-Bob

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    Moar.
     
  14. Commodore

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    Chris Coons is a b**** and a weasel.
     
  16. B-Bob

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    Chris Coons and Bill Mahr are epidemiologists now? WUT?
     
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    My dad and cousin got really sick about 3 months back with all the covid symptoms, they live with a roommate who tested positive for Covid the same week they were sick, somehow they both tested negative for covid. Dad even waited 2 months, got the antibody blood test, negative.

    I don't know the odds of that, I don't know if somehow multiple tests that my dad and cousin took didn't work, but supposedly they just happened to get sick with something else the same time their roommate got Covid. Dad said he felt sick for 2+ months with a cough.

    Now, this may read as a random internet antidote, but I wrote it down on a napkin in the back of my head so it's basically randomized placebo-controlled peer-reviewed established scientific data, if you ask me.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I think this was posted earlier but bears repeating.
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...5-times-protection-natural-immunity-data-show
    COVID-19 vaccine gives 5 times the protection of 'natural immunity,' data show

    US adults who previously had COVID-19 contracted the disease at more than five times the rate of those who were fully vaccinated, according to data published today in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR).

    Rolling out vaccines during a pandemic is not easy, and people can get confused by evidence that shows COVID vaccines don't work perfectly, including a study yesterday showing that household spread with the Delta (B1617.2) variant still happens after vaccination, albeit not as readily in the unvaccinated and not leading to severe cases (see today's CIDRAP News story).

    Yet the body of evidence continues to grow that, despite their imperfections, COVID-19 vaccines continue to work very well, and today's study adds to that. Officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), who led the study, say of the results, "All eligible persons should be vaccinated against COVID-19 as soon as possible, including unvaccinated persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2."

    Unvaccinated at 5.5 times the risk
    The researchers looked at data from nine states on 201,269 hospitalizations for COVID-like illness from Jan 1 to Sep 2, 2021. Of these, 94,264 previously had molecular testing for SARS-CoV-2, and 7,348 (7.8%) had had at least one other SARS-CoV-2 test result 14 or more days before hospitalization and were thus included in the study.

    Among that group, 1,020 hospitalizations were among previously infected and unvaccinated people, and 6,328 cases were among fully vaccinated people who were not previously infected. A recent lab-confirmed COVID-19 infection was found in 324 (5.1%) of the fully vaccinated people and in 89 (8.7%) of the unvaccinated, previously infected people.

    In comparing unvaccinated people who were infected 90 to 179 days after a previous infection compared with those who were vaccinated 90 to 179 days before their COVID infection, the researchers found the incidence of infection to be 5.49 times higher in the unvaccinated (95% confidence interval, 2.75 to 10.99).

    The authors conclude, "These findings suggest that among hospitalized adults with COVID-19–like illness whose previous infection or vaccination occurred 90–179 days earlier, vaccine-induced immunity was more protective than infection-induced immunity against laboratory-confirmed COVID-19."

    Daily cases near 100,000
    In what could be an anomaly, the United States reported 99,384 new cases yesterday and 1,776 deaths, according to the Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracker. The day before officials noted 76,957 new COVID-19 cases and 2,141 deaths. All told, the country now has had 45,892,544 COVID cases and 744,955 deaths.

    The 7-day average of new daily COVID-19 cases is 72,569, with 1,381 daily deaths, according to the New York Times tracker.

    And the CDC COVID Data Tracker shows that 57.8% of Americans are now fully vaccinated against COVID-19, 66.5% have received at least one dose of vaccine, and 8.7% of fully vaccinated people have received a booster dose.

    Pandemic economic impact
    Hamstrung by COVID-19 and supply shortages, the US economy slowed sharply to a 2% annual growth rate in July through September, the lowest quarterly growth since the recovery from the pandemic recession began last year, the Associated Press reported.

    In other industry news, the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for private-sector employers will allow companies to force workers who refuse to get the COVID-19 vaccine to pay for required weekly tests and masks, Bloomberg News reports.

    New York City is bracing for a shortage of police and firefighters as its COVID vaccination deadline approaches today, according to the New York Times. And Citigroup says that US-based employees must submit proof of COVID vaccination by Jan 14 if they want to stay employed, according to CNN.
     
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  19. NewRoxFan

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    There you go... bringing science and facts into this. Better to cite Bill Maher...
     
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