Because you can't... simple as that. Even on alternate media sites, you can't find a single one that reports vasts amounts of deaths and/or serious side effects from the vaccine. And keep playing the "old man" card. If you think 63 qualifies one as an old man have at it. Not sure why some folks sling it around like it's an insult. Hopefully you'll make it to that age one day. Then maybe you can be 4+ years retired. Enjoying your grand kids. Traveling whenever you want. Going to bed and waking up whenever you want. Not worrying about work projects, responsibilities and deadlines. Playing golf, tennis, boating, hanging at the beach, or doing absolutely nothing. Getting old is better than the alternative. I do have a problem with dairy... so there is that.
The title is wrong (do these authors bother to read the study, it takes only 5 mins?). The study pretty much confirms our understanding with other data - similar viral load b/t vax and unvax, vax get infected less, viral load decrease faster for those vax and vax spread less. We already know that vaccinated are multiple times less likely to be infected. You can't spread if you aren't infected. Once infected and in a prolonged exposure setting (household), unvaccinated spread 38% vs 25% for vaccinated. This is why mask was recommended again, whatever your vax status, for indoor settings at the start of this current wave.
From the article "Although vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease and deaths from COVID-19..." I'm not sure why folks keep bringing up that vaccinated people can still get COVID and spread COVID like it's some sort of "gotcha". It's been highly publicized that those things can occur. My vaccinated wife had COVID. Her symptoms lasted less than 24 hours and were mild even during those 24 hours. I never caught it and since we were going to be traveling to a family event at the end of her recommended 10 days of avoiding people, I continued to test. 3 in person rapids which included 3 PCRS and an additional 6 home tests. Every single one negative. I'm glad we are vaccinated. Also during the time we determined she would have been able to spread COVID to around at least 50 people. We informed them. Those who tested were negative. No one else felt sick. Meanwhile every single unvaccinated adult I know of that has had COVID has had a fairly miserable 1-3 weeks. A few have died. A 40 year old now has heart problems (she would have been vaccinated, but vaccines weren't around when she got it). My 29 year old niece had to take steroids and nebulizer breathing treatments. She and her husband take ivermectin and "eat healthy" and are young and live a healthy lifestyle instead of getting vaccinated. They have each had COVID twice. Once, not too bad but still over a week of feeling crappy. The second time, much worse.
Headline writers want you to click on their story. It made me click. If the headline was " vaccinated people spread COVID similar to unvaccinated in a home environment", I would have said, 'yeah. OK, but do they catch it as much"
Yeap. I don't mind click bait as long as it's just not outright wrong. Probably 90% of the ppl read the title and don't bother to read much more.
Oh, I suspect the reporter from The Hill read it. But it was more important to allow for a dishonest interpretation of the study results which of course, commodore and other trumpian anti-vaxxers jumped to use as prof that vaccines are not important. Which as the study reports: "Although vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease and deaths from COVID-19..."
The answer is still no. It’s not an insult. The young kids called me an old man and I’m 46 so it’s all relative anyway since we are living in a youth driven culture. I don’t do dairy and you should too. Too many problems for the guts and all the potential inflammation. I can get my nutrients from so many other sources, unless you really like dairy. Working on retiring early, I’ll give my self another 10 years. I have squirreled away a decent nest eggs by good investments and having no bad lifestyle habits (i.e., boozing, drugging, womanizing, gambling, cross dressings, political donations), so I’m on my way unless Brandon decides to take away everything I’ve worked for all my life. Early retirement is a great thing, you’re still young and nimble enough to fulfill most of your bucket list.
Because you can't. It's the typical Trump Republican response. They make a claim and when pressed on the issue to support their claim, they refuse.
No because you're waiting to dismiss every source outside of MSM. "You can't trust OAN!" "You can't believe anything you hear from Project Veritas!" "You can't believe everything you see on Brighteon!" It will never stop. You will always dismiss whatever source we have so why even try?
I'm just looking for one. I can't find a single source (including OANN and Newsmax) that are reporting widespread deaths and serious side effects from the vaccine. I am actively trying to find one regardless of their notoriety. In other words "not even OANN is reporting widespread deaths or serious side effects from the vaccine" ETA And I'm one of those people that don't take most journalistic endeavors at face value. I'll get other view points.
I have a relative that truly believes in some of the craziest stuff. He post links to his sources and told me to read up on them. I know he truly believes in them and just let him be. I have another relative that didn't care a single bit about politics but became a cultist trump follower in 2020. I let him speak his mind and once in a while, I asked for links to read up on his sources. He never provides a single source. He is a daily active FB user and I believe that's where he got his info. I think he knows his sources are weak. If I have to guess, I think he's just not willing to see them crumbles and thus keep it to himself - iow, too invested to open up to being wrong.
lol @Commodore gong through twitter feeds reading some dipshits 10 characters and retweeting it. That's what "Do your own research" means today lmao
But....but....I thought a number of people were hesitant due to the speed at which the vaccine was developed. This is the single thing that should piss Trump voters off the most. All he had to do was to show empathy and take the disease seriously. And then he could tout the speed at which the vaccine was being developed. And he could have touted its efficacy in preliminary testing. And he could have had his administration take all the credit. And he would have won the election with no problem. But he's too much of a dick to have done that.
I’m someone who does give the Trump Administration credit for developing the vaccines quickly. They should and all of America should be proud of that achievement. The problem though with this is if you recognize the vaccines are effective and safe but make them voluntary that isn’t freedom. Freedom can only exist within a structure that guarantees the rights of all. The problem with choosing not to be vaccinated and potentially spreading a dangerous disease to others is that that isn’t respecting the rights of other. That is saying that your individual choice overrules the safety of others. That isn’t a free society but an anarchic society. Even besides that in this situation the “mandates” aren’t violating basic rights as they are in the basis of employment. It’s a principle of Conservative thought that while you have a right to work there is no right to any specific job. Further it has long been a principle of conservative thought that employers have the right to establish the terms of employment. It forms the basis of why Conservatives have opposed collective bargaining and labor laws. Yet in this situation they many who claim to be conservatives are not only saying employers shouldn’t be able to set the terms of employment what Abbott and DeSantis are pushing is that government should be stepping in and forcing private employers to decide what they consider is in their own interests.
