LMFAO BENGHAZI! LAPTOP GATE!! FAUCI GATE!!! There are so many legitimate things to go after ....... and this is the marching orders for some on the right.
Correct. If you had to rank what is most important, I'd bet most liberals would rank as such: Earth > America > Party Affiliation Conservatives would rank Party Affiliation > America > Earth For the GOP, the truth is in deed important but only within the context of Party Affiliation. For liberals, the context for the truth applies to the entire planet or at least for the whole country. Hence why the GOP thinks scoring political points is justified in attacking Fauci. Their truth only matters to them.
you seem to know very little about the folks you spend your days hating: i don't know a single person who tends to vote republican that gives a rat's ass about the republican party. it's a means to an end, and that end is protecting their country. everything else is irrelevant.
So you confirmed my point exactly. I'll add more layers to illustrate the point. Liberals: Earth > America > Party > Self Conservatives Self > Party > America > Earth Not a perfect rule but generally speaking, this holds pretty tight. So to protect yourself, you need to get behind Party. Conversely, Liberals believe if you protect the planet and the country, then you'll ultimately be protected too. It's not a judgement (or hatred), just a different mindset which leads to different outcomes. In THIS instance, scoring political points outweighs what is best for the planet or the country because conservatives value personal choice (self) above social benefits. As such, my personal decision to get vaccinated is more important that what's good for the planet or country. Since Fauci is promoting getting vaccinated, he does not value "my" rights and therefore I'm justified in attacking him.
Replace party affiliation with tribal affiliation. Conservative white America has sunk knee deep into identity politics while ironically with no self-awareness labeling the opposition as peddling identity politics. While the left worries about money in politics, the revolving door, healthcare systems, tax reform... You know actual policies, the right creates a continuous narrative that there is a war at the southern border, that white children are being attacked for prior transgressions, that PRIVATE companies are moderating their privately owned domains so on and so forth. Since Reagan, the GOP has spammed the narrative that "government is bad" regardless of context. Obviously this eventually leads to a party that doesn't believe problem solving for systemic issues in a country can at least in part be solved by the Democratic process and our government which means actual policy discussion is out the window for conservative and right wing circles. I try my best to listen to conservative talk radio and podcasts. And the most stark contrast between those forms of media and liberal/leftist media is the immense gap in the amount of policy discussion happens in each respective media circles.
Protecting from what...progress? Like what Reagan did when the black panthers took up arms in California? Banned guns...but when the white man has an issue with it "muh freedom?" FDR was the best president of the 20th century without a doubt. God bless that man...
You just said "protecting the country" is the #1 priority for conservatives however supporting the party is only a means to that end. ...so that is exactly what I said. What end would that be? Care to elaborate? I thought conservatives were very proud of the value "Don't tread on me" (aka "self"). You guys proudly wave your flag every chance you get. Isn't that the whole debate about vaccines? You cannot impede my personal freedom with a vaccine government mandate? I'm not sure this is much of a debate.
But what’s your opinion about mandates from private companies and the government? Wasnt “gain of function” being funded during Trump admin?
Well he worked under Trump so that seems tangentially related… Seems like the issue occurred under Trump. It’s interesting that this pandemic occurred under Trump yet the right wing media has to demure…
Fauci was the problem...Yeah, that's the ticket...sure, Jan... A crime against humanity: Dr. Deborah Brix admits Trump's campaign distracted from COVID response Is playing politics with a deadly pandemic a crime against humanity? The Brazilian Senate thinks so, and they have backed a report calling for charges against President Jair Bolsonaro over his handling of COVID-19. The committee that prepared the report had originally called for Bolsonaro to be charged with genocide and mass homicide against the indigenous people of Brazil as well but those charges were removed by the larger Senate before the vote. Whether the crimes against humanity charges will be sent to the International Criminal Court for investigation and adjudication is unknown. If they are, it will be a first. The 1,300-page report also calls for eight other charges against Bolsonaro, including misuse of public funds and spreading fake news about the pandemic as well as falsification of documents and incitement to crime, which they referred to Brazil's top prosecutor, an ally of the president who is unlikely to prosecute. Brazil's death toll is huge — second only to the United States — with over 600,000 deaths and counting. Their first wave was monstrous with mass graves and overwhelming hospital overload. When the second hit they were so ill-prepared that they ran out of oxygen. Bolsonaro's response has been to tell people to "stop whining" about "the little flu." He refused necessary lockdown measures from the beginning and relentlessly pushed snake oil cures like hydroxychloroquine. He has disparaged vaccines, masks and other public health measures. Brazil is a signatory to the International Criminal Court so it could theoretically agree to hear the case should it be forwarded to them. The law seems pretty straightforward, according to this analysis by Jen Kirby at Vox: A crime against humanity exists "when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack." "other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health." Kirby spoke with David Scheffer, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former US ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues, who told her that the "catchall nature" of the last part of the statute was deliberate: "It is obvious that other types of assaults on your civilian population are going to emerge in the future, and you have to provide for that in the statute. It's hard to think of a better example than intentional mismanagement of a Covid-19 pandemic or some other pathogen. And so I would argue that, yes, that's fair game." Bolsonaro defiantly says that he is guilty of "absolutely nothing" despite his decisions to allow the virus to spread through the country in pursuit of "herd immunity" which basically translated to "let 'er rip." And he has continued to spread disinformation. Just this week, Facebook and Youtube removed a video in which the Brazilian president falsely claimed a link between Covid-19 vaccines and AIDS. You will no doubt recall that Bolsonaro and Donald Trump were great friends and kindred spirits during Trump's term. They saw eye to eye on many things, but nothing so much as the proper response to the pandemic. In March of 2020, as the virus was starting to spread quickly, the Brazilian leader visited Trump's private club, Mar-a-Lago, and it became one of the earliest Trump super-spreading events when Bolsonaro's press secretary tested positive for the virus after meeting with Trump, former Vice President Mike Pence and others. Bolsonaro came away from the meeting inspired by Trump, telling his health minister "that life was normal at Mar-a-Lago, everything was cured, and that hydroxychloroquine was the medicine that was supposed to be used. From that time on, it was very hard to get him to take the science seriously." We all saw the similarities between Bolsonaro and Trump's reaction to the pandemic in real-time. They both downplayed the virus and were obsessively concerned with the economic fallout, leading them to lean on scientists to fudge the numbers. Both of them were constantly out in public exposing themselves and others to the virus and they each recommended unscientific cure-alls while ignoring the public health recommendations that actually mitigated the worst of the virus. Trump really wanted to take credit for the vaccines but he has been forced to downplay that achievement due to skepticism among his followers, while Bolsonaro just comes right out and says they don't work. Their record in the pandemic is astonishingly similar. Here in the U.S., the task of investigating what happened with the pandemic has fallen to the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, which has kept a pretty low profile these last few months. But on Tuesday they took the testimony of Dr. Deborah Birx, Trump's COVID-19 coordinator. According to the New York Times, Brix reiterated her earlier shocking claim that at least 130,000 lives were unnecessarily lost because the administration refused to do everything it could to ensure the nation followed the public health recommendations to mitigate the spread of the disease. But in her testimony this week she also said that as the pandemic wore on into the summer and fall, the administration became distracted by the presidential campaign and pretty much lost interest in the crisis. In other words, a lot of people died so that Donald Trump could get elected. When asked if she felt Trump did everything he could to save lives, Brix replied, "no." She also complained about the malign influence of Dr. Scott Atlas, the radiologist who caught Trump's eye on Fox News and was brought in to push the idea that the country should seek "herd immunity," just as Bolsonaro had tried to do in Brazil. She testified that Atlas even brought to the White House the three physicians who later authored the "Great Barrington Declaration," which called for deliberately hastening herd immunity. Trump was all in: Bolsonaro and members of his family are under fire for corruption as well and there is a good chance that he may be facing jail time as well as a tough re-election next year. And then there is the little matter of the crimes against humanity charges that could be before the International Criminal Court. His good friend and inspiration, Donald Trump, is in a similar situation although he has three more years to try to make everyone forget what a terrible response he had to the pandemic. Trump needn't worry about the ICC, of course. The U.S. isn't a signatory. The powers that be thought signing on to it might result in U.S. troops being accused of war crimes. I doubt they anticipated that a U.S. president might be accused of facilitating the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. Donald Trump has always been a very lucky guy in that way.
I didn't ask you about your vaccination status. You posted an anti-Facci tweet. Why are conservatives, such as yourself, prioritizing going after Fauci? You said conservatives see party as a means to an end. What is the end game here?
Another example. Liberals Earth > Country > Party > Self It's almost always that liberals accuse conservatives of crimes against humanity, which is probably the most profound crime any individual can be charged with. It's almost never the other way around. It's nearly always populists and fascists (aka conservatives) accused. I'd argue this is because liberals put a higher value on global benefits and would thusly sacrifice individual benefits. (But like any good rule, there is always an exception. I'd say China is an exception. Anything taken to an extreme leads to bad things and communism taken to it's extreme is case in point. It just seems conservatives get to the extreme much more often than liberals, as it relates to crimes against humanity.) /rant I have no doubt that Trump and Bolsonaro lost very little sleep at the thought that poor people were adversely affected by Covid, which not so accidentally helps their own party ...which ultimately helps keep themselves in power (back to self). Helping poor people doesn't keep Trump in power. If you are twisted (and Trump is), eliminating poor people improves odds in the next election.
Jesus Christ dude. That is chalked full of clips taken out of context. #1: Nearly all those clips were before the vaccine was approved. It's healthy to be skeptical about an experimental drug. #2: Trump was in office ...who is a pathological liar. Why it it surprising for somebody say we can't trust the federal government? #3: Not trusting the government is not the same thing as not trusting the vaccine. #4: The vaccines are now approval and we have a lot more real world data. Reasonable people can now feel more confident. Noted: You still have not answered the question why conservatives are emphasizing the attack on Fauci.
He's "The Scientific Authority" Fox and Co are grooming their mouthbreathers to distrust and loathe. Trust Scott Atlas and Indiana Vitaman Peddler instead! It's.The.Science!
