Right, this isn’t a secret. While the public generally doesn’t know because the anti immigration focus has mostly been on the southern border, the gov knows and Trump knew. Worth repeating again that visa overstay has been a much bigger issue and the focus from Trump and Republicans have mostly been at the southern border. By simple logic and number, it’s more about who and where than illegal immigration.
I would argue the opposite. If a murder happens in Beverly Hills, it gets a movie made about it like Black Dahlia or that Russell Crowe movie. If a murder happens on the Southside of Chi, it’s just another day, and black on black crime. And your point makes no sense because Visa overstays have consistently outpaced illegal border crossings. I don’t have time to look it up but I believe that I saw a year or two ago it was 8 years in a row where Visa overstays actually were far greater than border crossings. I know why you don’t want to admit what you said sounds kind of racist but it is what it is. The fact is Republicans have a chance to actually get something meaningful done on immigration with Biden but they refuse to work with him on it because they need this issue to still be an issue just like they want Covid to still be an issue so they have perceived issues FoxNews can whine about every night so that they can win elections. If it’s such a big issue then call Ted Cruz and tell him your his supporter who votes for him and you’ll vote third party unless he drops obstructing government and works with “the enemy” Joe Biden to get a bipartisan immigration deal done. Until you do that you’re just as much of a hack as Ted Cruz. We’ll leave the “are you a racist” debate for another day because that debate solves very little. So do me a favor and call your Congressmen or women and demand they work on a bipartisan immigration deal. Since you are obviously one of their voters, their offices are much more likely to listen to you then they would be with me since they ask for your name and city when you call in. If this is something you really care about then do something about it.
It is sensationalized, but we don't devote the same resources to robbery/homicide divisions in Beverley Hills Police Department as we do in Chicago. The reason for this is it makes no sense to have dozens of detectives devoted to solving one murder per year. Obviously the reaction to any individual incident is going to be reduced the larger the number of incidents (diminishing returns). The comparison was not between visa overstays and border crossings, it was between illegal immigration across the northern border vs. the southern border, so it is actually your rebuttal that makes no sense. Do you believe that illegal immigration from Canada is a problem on the same magnitude as illegal immigration from Latin America? If not, then why would one expect the same enforcement on the northern border as on the southern border. Saying that illegal immigration from Latin America is a much larger issue than illegal immigration from Canada is racist? It is literally numbers. Try to follow along. I'm not from Texas, so Ted Cruz doesn't represent me. I don't support Biden's immigration "solutions". I am not a Republican voter, so I cannot take my vote away from any Republicans. 100% of my representation belongs to the Democratic party, except the DA (who is nominally Republican, but also supports Black Lives Matter and dropped out of the California District Attorney's Association). Every time I have contacted my Congressman, I have gotten back a form email saying they care very much about my issue. Somehow, none of his positions change, almost as though I am a tiny minority of his constituency and catering to me would not be politically viable.
her “quirkiness” is not cool at all to me. At least this is better than when she wears bath curtains as dresses
Actually for any given murder a murder in Beverly Hills is likely to get more attention than any given murder in Chicago. One because there are less murders in Beverly Hills but Beverly Hills per capita has a bigger tax base means that the Beverly Hills PD can devote more resources on any given murder than Chicago PD can. Also a murder in Beverly Hills is likely to be a celebrity or someone closely associated with celebrity. You raise good points that in terms of resources yes resources tend to be directed where there is a larger problem that said the rhetoric around immigration has been that it's about the "illegality" and not where immigrants come from. We've heard frequently from many, not specifically you, that immigrants are welcome but we don't want them to come illegally. If that is the standard then there should be equal concern regarding immigrants who aren't here through legal channels no matter which country they come from.
This has been one of my biggest problems with Sinema even before the current debates. She doesn't seem to take her job seriously and is more concerned about her image than actually doing the job of US Senator.
Yes, but not collectively, which is the point. You don't need as much border enforcement on the Canadian border, because the problem you are addressing is smaller. That means you don't get the people on horses, etc. If there were 11 million Canadian immigrants here illegally, we would probably talk about them more. Illegal Canadian immigration is just not the same scale of problem that illegal immigration from Latin America is. That's okay, there are several posters that will insist that I am a Trump voter. LOL.
I'm not following your point here. If a celebrity is murdered in Beverly Hills collectively there is going to be a lot of attention and resources devoted to that. Not only does Beverly Hills have more money to apply to any individual murder as a society we will express far more interest in that than any given murder in Chicago. Again you're missing that this is about political rhetoric. The frequent rhetoric is specifically about "illegal immigrants' yet concern both rhetorical and in action is about immigrants at the southern border. Also as been shown the number of visa overstays per year actually exceeds the number of immigrants coming in illegally from the southern border. Even following your reasoning that more resources should go to where there is a greater problem the greater problem with "illegal immigrants" is from visa overstays.
That is an individual case. Collectively means all considered together. There are going to be more resources devoted to 500 murders than 1 murder. Obviously adding in a celebrity changes the amount of attention paid (also if the national media randomly decides to focus on a particular case like this Petito woman), but just white John Doe dying in Beverly Hills vs. 500 mostly black John Does dying in Chicago, there is no comparison. The point is, it isn't a race issue, it is a magnitude issue. Remember that this is an analogy to illegal immigration across the northern and southern borders (which is why celebrity is irrelevant). The comparison was between illegal immigration at the Canadian border vs. the Mexican border and how racist it was that there were men on horses whipping people along the Mexican border. I agree that there should be more done on visa overstays, but it is totally irrelevant to the original argument. Visa overstays cannot be stopped at a border, because by definition they are entering legally, they don't become illegal immigrants until their visa's expire. I would personally prefer a zero-tolerance system, where someone is deported immediately if they are discovered to be in the United States unlawfully, whether on an expired visa or crossing the border.
You're helping my point here. Rhetorically a lot of attention is paid on celebrity murders and as you note the national media latched onto the Petito case. So while you're correct that perhaps total amount of resources might be applied to Chicago, again you have to consider that Chicago is a much larger city than Beverly Hills, I'm willing to guess that per capita more resources are spent on a murder in Beverly Hills and far more attention will be expressed. We might just be talking about two different things. I'm talking about the amount of rhetoric and interest. We keep on hearing about things like "caravans" and "invasions" from the Southern borders while simultaneously claims that this isn't racist or targetting specific countries but that all illegal immigration is a concern. That though isn't quite the case when attention is so focussed on the Southern Border. IN this case following your analogy it is that more concern would be on a murder in Beverly Hills than a murder in Chicago. That's one possible proposal but I suspect it would be difficult to implement and very costly. I think we need to understand that immigration is a function of supply and demand and as long as our laws are wildly out of touch with that we will continue to have a lot of immigration.
I don't know why you are talking about per capita or individual cases. It is totally irrelevant to the point. No one is talking about individual border jumpers regardless of race or what border they are crossing. We hear about caravans and invasions because there are FAR MORE PEOPLE coming from Latin America than from Canada. That is the point. No one would talk about caravans and invasions if there were fewer than 1,000 annual apprehensions of people crossing from south of the border. It would be like the amount of attention paid to illegal immigration from Canada (where there are fewer than 1,000 annual apprehensions of people crossing from north of the border). I think it would be much cheaper than our current system and far easier to implement. Now we have lengthy court processes that are backed up for years where many things totally unrelated to immigration status are considered. If there was a simple system that required only that it be proved someone was in the US illegally, it would be incredibly streamlined. The AUSA would simply submit some sort of documentation of the immigration status of the person, they would have the opportunity to present documentation proving their citizenship or legal residency, and an immigration judge makes a determination. Shouldn't take more than one court appearance which lasts maybe 10 minutes.
Oh man, McAuliffe's team is so desperate they hired some people to dress up with tiki torches and stand in front of Youngkin's bus. And they included a woman and a black guy lol. They look embarrassed and miserable standing in the rain. Worst psy-op ever. Dems must be panicking about the results next week.
