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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. JumpMan

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    I don't think an adult mandate matters too much. You may lose your job at certain companies, but you can get another job if you are that against getting the vaccine. You may not be able to enter certain public spaces, but everything could be delivered nowadays.

    I do think there will be a push for children to be vaccinated through a mandate and there will be support for it - especially, from those who don't have children -. It is difficult for parents to find alternatives to public schooling. That's why I'm talking about it. I don't know if the mandate for children is at all necessary, but it will become a serious debate.

    So Hepatitis A/B is more than ten times more effective at killing children. That's significant. There are arguments against requiring children to take the chickenpox vaccine. What about the other vaccines, though? My point was that the required vaccines today are against stronger diseases. These are the required vaccines:
    • Diphtheria/tetanus/pertussis.
    • Polio.
    • Measles/mumps/rubella.
    • Hepatitis A and B and.
    • Varicella.
    • Meningococcal meningitis.
    Besides, the chickenpox vaccine, those vaccines are for diseases much more dangerous to children than Covid.

    As far as transmissibility, nobody knows for sure if children spread Covid at the same rates. It's debatable. Where did you get your information?
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Where's your scientific proof that this study which clearly shows the vaccines to be effective is false?

    https://documentcloud.adobe.com/lin...:scds:US:e70cd87d-cfce-420f-8750-77d09ce3c3dd

    You can also try and disprove the results of this study.

    "Vaccine Effectiveness Studies in the Field | NEJM" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2110605

    If we want to look at the value of the evidence you presented which was a woman making claims on a video vs. These studies which have tested methodology applied. You are welcome to do so. But it is a losing battle for your position in this debate.
     
  3. Amiga

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    I think losing a job can be extremely drastic to many, especially if you live paycheck to paycheck and is a sole provider to your family. Don't want to downplay that as being less drastic than looking at private or home-schooling options.

    As for children, I do agree there will be pressure on both sides and I think it's definitely debatable. As of now, I don't care that much either way, but I'm slightly in favor of not mandating.

    I don't know about the other diseases, but I've already shown that at least one that is on par with covid, and since it is currently mandated for children in almost all 50 states, it's not a great reason for being against mandate at school.

    True, we don't know for sure. Studies show both lower and higher transmission than adults. I haven't seen solid evidence to suggest Children are infected less or less contagious. Given that some studies show more contagious among Children (which could simply be because Children are more likely to be asymptomatic and so are more likely to spread unknowingly), based on the principle of unknown and being cautious, I would just simply say, likely the same as adult.
     
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  4. Amiga

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    In other words forget about proving me wrong, just sweep it under the rug. I get it. You can't prove her wrong. It's cool. No need to go and find ready made stats just for the sake of argument. I've seen this all over where people are trying to convince themselves that they did the right thing.
     
  6. jchu14

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    Looks like dust and contamination to me. The 'hydra vulgaris' looks like cotton or some other kind of fiber. Dust, contaminants, and air bubbles can look a lot like what they were seeing.

    Cotton under microscope
    dust under microscope

    I think Occam's razor applies here. What's more likely
    - the lab saw contaminants from the the tools, people, or clothing.

    OR

    - There is a multi-national, multi-corporation conspiracy to implant self-assembling, super conducting, nano microchips that utilizes live organisms like Hydra Vulgaris. Hydra in Marvel Universe first published in 1965, so this is a conspiracy spanning almost 60 year.
     
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  7. Possum

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    What are you talking about, I needle your mom all the time. She loves it in every orifice and in an order that might disturb you.

    First one they are.

    second one, they basically said they didn’t trust the process with trump. Exactly what I said.
     
  8. Possum

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    Says the loser that is pretending to be a doctor on a message board.
     
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    Anyone else?
     
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    I didn't even attempt to prove her wrong. I didn't post ready made states. I posted actual studies and their results, and asked if you could disprove them. I also asked you to weight the credibility between the two sources.
     
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    I'm not sure what you are asking. You said that different reports say different things and posted a report that backs exactly the points that I was making and didn't say anything different at all.

    I mentioned that the link you pasted actually supported my statements and showed a few examples to back it up. Those examples were from the report you linked.

    Are you saying that you agree with the studies, data, and evidence that states that vaccines are effective and helpful? Are you asking for more studies and research that back those conclusions?

    I'm just unclear what you are asking.
     
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    You must be pretty insecure if that’s the case, doesn’t matter to me what you think. If you’ve noticed I never brought it up, it was another poster that knows me. I don’t speak in that capacity

    I’m curious though, how does a lay person like yourself assess that? I mean it makes a lot of sense when you’re curbing a denying actual medical advice, but it’s some serious delusion when you think you have the capacity to assess any sort of craft you have zero experience in. I legitimately feel bad having to walk around with that little self worth..but your stupidity is your own failing. Stay humble man, open your mind, be kind…know that you don’t know. The latter is the most important thing. If you want to learn more that’s great, put in the work.
     
  14. JumpMan

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    Lose a job, get another one or if you are so attached to it, get vaccinated. For kids it's different. Private and homeschooling both require money either in tuition or lost income.

    I think people will eventually agree with mandates for young children. Eventually you will, too. :eek:
     
  15. bobrek

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    Nope, they aren't. The link i provided showed that George Floyd was positive for COVID and his death wasn't categorized as such.

    You said Harris and Biden wouldn't take the vaccine. I provided the link showing where Harris said she WOULD take the vaccine as long as medical professionals agreed it should be taken.

    You continue to post wacky styff.
     
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  16. Amiga

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    As I said, I don't care either way. Of course, if they are mandating a vaccine that hasn't been FDA approved, I would care. That reminds me of another vaccine. TX almost mandated HPV a few years ago once it was approved by the FDA. Perry pushed (his EO mandated it) for it but eventually backed down. If it was mandated, I wouldn't care. They didn't and I don't care either. Today, only 4 states (well 3 + DC) mandate HPV.
     
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    These "Law n Order" sumbitches are nasty little cowards.
     
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    NBA player got blood clots from Vaccine… ‘Hawks told me to keep it secret’…

     
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    Joe Rogan interviews CNN Dr. Sanjay Gupta… Your network straight up lied about me




    all you sheeple that watch CNN need to get a clue.
     

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