Screw Watson, what I want to know is when is McNair's brick wall going to be done? Are they gonna use that to try and get the World Cup to Reliant? Pancakes needs to get on this pronto...
If you're talking about "making it work" in terms of sticking it out with the team, then sure. But if you're talking about sticking it out and the team coming around and winning, Stafford/Palmer/Rivers are pretty much the examples of what not to do. I don't agree with the way DW4 handled things but can't see how you can point to those 3 guys as examples of something working. Also should note that the rest of the guys you mentioned won a SB before getting disgruntled with their teams so not sure they are the best examples. And really the story has yet to be fully written for Wilson and Rodgers. As for Eli, he quite honestly might have thrown the most notorious temper tantrum in NFL history.
You're not quite looking at this the way I did. I'm talking about making it work as far as not wanting to leave at the 1st sign of trouble. The winning part, is another conversation. Also, I think the fact that he hasn't won a Super Bowl is a great point. He hasn't done jack in this league except go to a few Pro-Bowls, and make some highlights. Those guys won Super Bowls, had the team disagree with them, and STILL stayed. My point is, with all those guys who were "disgruntled" we knew why, they aired it, made up, and it was resolved. With Deshaun, his leaked arguments and rap lyrics dont hold much weight to me. I just feel like he's hiding a bit... That's just me tho...
No I hear you. But don't think you can say the winning part is another conversation. Assuming DW4 wants to win, forcing your way out of is a means to the end. And honestly that's where I can't fault him. The franchise has been a dumpster fire under Cal. Like I said, I can't get with the way he handled things but outside of Wilson and Rodgers this past offseason, I can't recall any of the guys you mentioned airing out and resolving grievances with their team. And even then I think it's a band aid with those two in particular, one that is likely to rip off completely after the season.
I've been seeing a lot of this lately, where people are letting Cal's ineptitude off the hook due to Deshaun's massage fantasies.
I understand what your saying, but this scenario wasn't like Watt, who had played years after signing a contract, and wanted a chance at a ring before he retired. Watson should have never signed the damn contract with Bill as coach if that's how he felt. He had a better chance of winning without Bill as coach, but wouldn't even give it a a try.
Watt didn’t want to give Culley a try either apparently. Like you said, he wanted a chance at a ring and simply put, he wasn’t going to get that here. But the same would hold true for DW4. Yes he is younger and would seemingly have time to work through a rebuild but completely understand not wanting to waste prime years here. It has been mistake after mistake under Cal and the off-season seems to have been more of the same.
Hope, Miami pulls the trigger right before the trade deadline. We could end up with some really high draft picks next year. If they wait until all this gets resolved they might not have enough for the Texans to bite. Eventually, Watson will have to cave and go to whoever will trade for him.
I didn't realize Miami gave up its pick in 2022 to Phili. SF's pick not that great. Now I really want to force Phili on Watson. Their own 1st rounder, Miami 1st, Colt's second that may turn into a first and next year's 1st would do the trick. If Watson says no, force him to play this year or get his pay suspended.
He did and he also went about things much more maturely than DW4. Yet the means to the end is the same which is my point.
Respectfully, that's where we disagree. Watt made an effort playing for the Texans, and didn't just back out after signing for the big money. Deshaun's only effort after signing was getting those Instagram masseuse thrills.
What's clear is that 99% of the issues related to Watson wanting to be traded and the downward spiral this franchise is currently on is directly related to Watson's behavior. Cal gave him carte blanche and look at what he did with it. I mean there's a 50/50 chance he does jail time. This is what happens when you put your money/faith behind a sexual predator. Let's call this what it is, Watson wanted out the minute that he knew the civil complaints were coming down and Cal failed to support the sexual predator.
Point stand Watson and watt gave up on the team at the same time when they realized that the incompetent owner wanted easterby/religion to dictate/influence the direction of our team.
Watson gave up on the team when he got upset that his buddy BOB got fired and then found out the team wasn't going to allow him to be the new GM.....oh and the fact that he was a rapist was discovered. Watt's situation was completely different, he was a guy on the ass end of his productive career who was released from a team headed into rebuilding. They let him finish off elsewhere because it was a mutually beneficial situation.....you know, and he isn't a rapist.
revisionist. Watson kept playing even after BoB got fired. He did not give up. He gave up when he realized that our owner valued the words of religious bs over him. Both him and watt were unhappy with the direction the team was going as they saw the season was lost. but keep spinning watson bs. All i know is our franchise is not going anywhere with the Easterby influence.