Would you trade John Wall & 3 - 4 1st rounders for Ben Simmons?

What if Morey came to you and said, "Pacers are offering Brogdon, LeVert, and picks. Trailblazers, CJ and picks. But, I'll trade you Simmons and Harris for Wood and Wall, no picks involved. Otherwise, I'm taking another deal."

KPJ
Green
Harris
Simmons
Sengun

Yay? Nay?

 

Horrible trade. So I was right, you really want to sideline Scoot with Simmons. Just admit that was your goal instead of this 2 ballhandler crap which we already have. Portland rejected this trade for a reason. You keep simultaneously arguing that Simmons isn't worth much in trade and suggesting wild trades for him like he is worth a lot. Nobody is offering 3 1sts, 3 picks swaps and a real player for Simmons. Of course Morey is going to ask for it. I predict he is traded for a lot less and certainly not here thankfully.

 

yes, under condition that we also get to swap coaches, so that BS can play another 4 years under Doc rivers, Silas can have the superstar so that he doesnt have to coach, and we get rid of Silas.

 

Take off the tin foil hat, I am a KPJ homer from the beginning. Archives are easily accessible, even morons can run a search.

But I had huge reservations about Porter and Green's compatibility way before the draft.

All my fears have come true, their lack of defense is crippling our starting lineup.

Have to split them apart to maximize their games and limit the defensive liability.

And if I offered Green in any Simmons trade this board would have shat itself condemning me.

I have no problem putting Green in 2nd unit instead of Porter but I'm trying to be magnanimous over here.

And yes, you are still a moron.

 

Our starting lineup that is intended to win 20-25 games this year is crippled? Where is the logic in that statement? We suck because we need more talent and development. We had the WORST record, we're not supposed to be any good. Did I miss where we got Harden back and got an All-Star for Wall? Players that are ROOKIES do get better at things like D when they first come in the league and need the hard knocks. This is the story of literally every player. We still haven't dumped Gordon, Wall, and Augustin so we aren't even done with the purge. The rest of our team is essentially ROOKIES. The players and roster will not look this way in 3 years and if it does then coaching and management failed. Green and KPJ fit together but they have to grow together as does the entire damn team.

In our previous posts, I tried to assume you were sincere in your love of Simmons and wanted to bench Scoot. You adamantly mentioned that two ballhandlers at a time was not enough and had no intention of benching Scoot. Obviously, that was not true and I am just holding you to your word. Now you freely admit the only reason you don't suggest trading Green for Simmons is because the board wouldn't take you seriously even though you believe that may be a good idea. If you recall in the past I have been frequently supportive of you even during your fanboy obsession over Aaron Gordon. I don't have a tin foil hat, I have eyes and have watched basketball for over 40 years. You have an obsession and have just moved on to your next one. It seems all you do now is call people names when you don't have good arguments. Please come up with something better.

 

I said NO in the poll and in other post but I would do a Wall and picks or I would offer Gordon/Wood/House & 2 FRP better deal for the 76ers and opens up rotation space for growth and develop for us.
Here my thought: double high post like Rick Adelman offense. There are few players that can do it Simmons & Sengun are two of them. Plays to the strengths of ALL our players. Keep Christopher & Garuba on the main roster all year, where they both belong. Simmons, Garuba, Thies, Martin can switch everything on defense while Sengun may still want to drop back. Tate & Christopher will be playing winning basketball by taking on the toughest defense assignments in the backcourt. No more layups against us anymore. This would also put Porter, Green & Christopher playing down hill all game long as they cut to the basket off of backside / playside screens. We have enough depth and athleticism to play like this on both sides of the court because this would be A LOT of movement. Most of other team’s rotation would be missed up because of all the activity.

The addition of Simmons makes the difference & the rebuild is over.

 

There lack of defense is crippling our starting lineup after 2 preseason games. LOL. I take it patience is not your strong point. This year is still a re-building year and KPJ and Green can grow together. We have 4 rookies that all need time and minutes to improve on their weaknesses. This is the start of that process.

 

With this package you overrated him though. He is not worth 2 FRPs plus 2 pick swaps, plus 2 SRPs. He doesn't want to play PF either, so not sure why you put him there position wise. Seems like his camp is saying, he wants 100% control of the team on the court, meaning KPJ PG experiment out the window as well and instead you end up with KPJ and Green off the ball. Green can handle it, KPJ can't. Personally, I rather roll the dice with KPJ rather than being Simmons and his overinflated ego to Houston.

 

Lol I said this months ago. What 19 year old rookie that can score and 21 year old player that can score and create for others not having even started 82 games are also a good defensive backcourt?

What an absolutely weird statement. You’re arguing yourself in circles homie. Good luck.

 

Nay. Harris and Simmons are two horrible contracts which will tie up our cap and eat minutes for the guys we need to be developing. We need to keep our powder dry and not settle for an overpaid prima Donna and an offensive only overpaid guy who plays the same position as Green, Tate, Garuba, and KMJ.

 

yes, so that’s why split them. They are young, don’t complement each other, etc., etc. …
This year at least Green should be coming off the bench, that’s pretty clear to me. The same way as Kobe Bryant and James Harden were coming off the bench in their rookie years. Next year let’s talk again. But I don’t see any benefit to the team or to the two players for both of them to start.

 

89% no with 600 votes, one of the most definitive anti-trade polls in CFs history. Congrats everyone

 

It's a good thing there were no actual GMs polled amirite?

 

Picks are subjective.

Your opinion is not the critical one.

It's up to Stone and Morey and respective owners.

 

So you believe THIS current starting 5 will improve defensively wherein they are not a liability each game?

Put your name on it if so.

 

WTF are you vomiting out your arse now?

I never claimed Porter and Green will be a good defensive backcourt, I was concerned about their defense as a tandem from day ONE.

 

I still contend that having 2 playmakers in starting 5 is not just a good thing but necessary.

The Rockets have been an ELITE team for many seasons with 2 ball dominant playmakers in starting lineup.

It is asinine to claim or argue otherwise.

Adding a young All Star playmaker that can defend at ELITE level is a plus for ANY team, not just the Rockets.

Your accusations are silly, you are just looking for a conspiracy.

 

Lol, I'm well aware of that bro.

 

I believe our defense will improve yes. I believe KPJ is already showing signs and Green will put in the effort. Sure they are a liability defensively right now, but this year is about re-building and learning how to become NBA players. When Tate and Sequin are part of the starting unit then you will see a significant improvement on defense and in rebounding. They will still be bottom half on that side of the court. Patience with this team is key. You have none and want to wreck their progression and our flexibility by bringing in a max player who can’t shoot from the field or the line and give up significant assets for the possibility of being in a play-in game. Talk about moronic.

 

I didn’t say you claimed that. I said in my post what I said. I think you sound like someone that just wants to argue and argue and argue. And you end up contradicting yourself. It’s okay though obviously do what you enjoy doing lol