D&D Coronavirus thread

The cdc found no relationship between the vaccine and the death? Did they do an autopsy? This seems very misleading. The kid had no underlying health conditions according to what I read. Two days after second shot just drops dead? Everytime one of these stories comes out it seems like they CDC and media immediately try and discount it. It will be interesting to see the results of the autopsy.

 

The ME who did the autopsy didn't link it to the vaccine. Then The CDC did an investigation and they didn't either.

As far as the timing of the situation - you are ignoring the law of large numbers.
in probability and statistics as a sample size grows, its mean gets closer to the average of the whole population.
Therefore when you vaccinate over half the population of the U.S, the vaccinated people aren't suddenly immortal - they are still subjugated to the natural averages of the general population. They will still have the same number of car wreck, broken legs, and yes heart attacks in accordance with the national average. So yes, some people are going to die after receiving the vaccination and it may have absolutely nothing to do with the vaccination.

For example:
In the U.S., about 45,000 people die each week.
Let's say I take half the U.S. population into a stadium - I stand on a stage and wave my arms at them.
Within' the next week, approximately 22,500 people that watched me wave my hands will all die.
According to your logic, those people died because they watched me wave my hands.
The law of Large numbers tells us that is not true.
If compared to the background data (45,000 people typically die each week, we had half in the stadium therefore we expect 22.5 K to die), we can see that me waving my hands most likely didn't have any affect on their deaths at all.

NOW, if 40,000 people had died in the next week, that's above the background rate, so those deaths will be investigated to see if there was a link to me waving my arms. Of course there could still be other factors other than my arm-waving. Did some people in the audience have a highly spreadable disease that could have caused excess deaths? That might have been more of a factor than my arms. Thats what the investigations are designed determine - causation.

 

I know I’ve been through all this before. It doesn’t prove causation but of those 15000 deaths reported over 5000 have happened within 3 days of getting the vaccine. Doesn’t it bother you that investigating this is not a priority for the cdc and the health industry? Why are you ok with this? It doesn’t bother you that the big tech fact checkers are all funded by big pharma? It doesn’t bother you that when DRs speak out they’re threatened with having their license pulled. It doesn’t bother you that cdc has been caught covering up information about their involvement in gain of function research at the very lab where this virus came from? It doesn’t bother you that the WHO lied and covered up for China allowing this virus to spread across the world?

Doesn’t it bother you that they count any death where the person was covid positive as a covid death? Doesn’t it bother you that the media and big tech hide or delete any story that reports adverse effects? VEARS is there for a reason. Why isn’t it being used properly?

 

Again, you're ignoring the law of large numbers.

The CDC IS investigating them - how do you think they found out about the blood clots?

Big tech fact checkers are funded by Big Pharma? Source?

Dr's speaking out? you mean the 2% of Doctors? Quite a big majority there.

Not every death that is Covid positive is counted as a Covid death, but if Covid contributed to their death then yes, it is counted as a contributing factor.

VAERS IS being used properly - it's just that most anti-vaxxers are the ones NOT using it properly.

 

I Don’t know where you’re getting that info but it’s bogus. There have been complaints galore on that system even before this pandemic.

New Study Confirms the VAERS System is Only Reporting Approximately 1% of Anaphylaxis from COVID-19 Vaccines

The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) reported that the Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) reports that occurrence of anaphylaxis from the COVID-19 Vaccines is “4.7 cases/million Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine doses administered and 2.5 cases/million Moderna vaccine doses administered, based on information through January 18, 2021.”

The most salient point in the letter from ICAN is the revelation from the MGB study that “the rate of reporting [of COVID-19 vaccine anaphylaxis adverse reactions] still appears to be only around 0.8 to 2 percent of all cases of anaphylaxis.”

The ICAN letter goes on to point out the obvious:

This raises serious concerns regarding (1) under-reporting of other serious adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination, and (2) adverse events following other vaccines for which there has not been the same push to report adverse events. The anaphylaxis study highlights the urgency of the ongoing, well-known problem with adverse event reporting post-vaccination.

https://greatmountainpublishing.com...tely-1-of-anaphylaxis-from-covid-19-vaccines/

https://www.vaccinedeaths.com/2021-08-03-vaers-hiding-actual-numbers-coronavirus-vaccine-deaths.html

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/09/22/hhs-whistleblower-vaccine-side-effects.html

https://sagaciousnewsnetwork.net/only-one-percent-of-vaccine-reactions-reported-to-vaers/

 

You can Read what the actual VAERS website says about underreporting says here:

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

 

This is like the people in Africa that somehow thought the cure for aids was to sleep with a virgin.

 

aids prevention? yes.
aids cure? not so much.

 

I really need Russell Brand to read these stats and tell me and @tinman what to think.

 

Russell brand sited Kaiser and Wall Street journal

This survey looks like they went to a nascar event

I can survey Knicks fans and 99% will say that Starks is better than Vernon Maxwell
@Os Trigonum

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...-of-side-effect-from-johnson/?amp-content=amp

King County woman dies of very rare blood-clotting side effect from Johnson & Johnson vaccine

 

Agreed.

 

Says the guy using vaccinedeaths.com, visiontimes.com, and sagaciousnewsnetwork.net as a source...

LMAO

 

Idiots.

Everyone knows you have to have sex with a frog.