My favorite part about the vaccine and vaccine mandates is that the Democrats want to push for people to be mandated to have vaccines, but they don't want to outlaw abortions because it's all about my body, my choice. On the flip side, Republicans are all about my body, my choice when it comes to the vaccine, but when it comes to abortion, no way, no how. And then both sides refuse to acknowledge this hypocrisy. It's great. Washington at its finest.
Democrats don't want to legally mandate vaccines - they want vaccines mandated if you want to participate in certain group activities in society that involve putting other people at risk. Republicans aren't anti-abortion because of being anti-choice - they believe there is another person being affected (the fetus). In both cases, the parties limit people's choice when they feel other lives are involved. Neither party's vaccine stances have much of anything to do with their abortion stances.
What the other side fails to recognize is that it’s not just YOUR life when making this choice Which on am I talking about? Haha
this is my favorite part about the vaccine... https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...vid-adding-to-a-growing-list/?sh=694f81373105 Another Anti-Vaccine Radio Host Is Killed By Covid—Adding To A Growing List Bob Enyart, a conservative radio talk show host in Denver who urged listeners to boycott Covid-19 vaccines and vowed never to get a shot, has lost his life after contracting the virus, one of his co-hosts announced earlier this week, in what is but the latest instance of a right-wing radio pundit succumbing to the coronavirus. On his show, entitled “Real Science Radio,” Enyart falsely claimed the vaccines were developed using aborted fetal cells and wrote on the show’s website blog in August advising “everyone to boycott Pfizer, Moderna and the Johnson & Johnson to further increase social tension and put pressure on the child killers.” According to a Washington Post report, Enyart “used to gleefully read obituaries of AIDS sufferers while cranking ‘Another One Bites the Dust’ by Queen,” and repeatedly called for women who received an abortion to be sentenced to death. At least four other right-wing radio hosts have died of Covid-19 since early August after each previously cast doubt on the safety of vaccines or fought against mask mandates and other public health initiatives. Dick Farrel, a Florida-based conservative radio host and anchor on Newsmax TV who had called vaccines “bogus bullsh*t” and characterized Dr. Anthony Fauci as a “lying freak,” died on August 4 due to complications from Covid-19. In late August, Marc Bernier, who spoke out against Covid-19 vaccines and even called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” on his radio show from Daytona Beach, died after battling the virus for weeks. Jimmy DeYoung Sr., a religious radio broadcaster from Tennessee who published an interview advancing a conspiracy theory that the Pfizer vaccine would make women sterile and asked if the virus and vaccines were forms of governmental control, died on August 18 after contracting Covid. Phil Valentine, a popular conservative talk radio host in Nashville who voiced vaccine skepticism and mocked Democrats’ efforts to encourage people to get the jab, was killed by the virus in mid-August after reportedly telling his brother he regretted not being a “more vocal advocate” of getting inoculated. Crucial Quote: “I know if he were able to tell you this, he would tell you, ‘Go get vaccinated. Quit worrying about the politics. Quit worrying about all the conspiracy theories,’” Mark Valentine, Phil's brother, told The Tennessean. “He regrets not being more adamant about getting the vaccine. Look at the dadgum data.” Key Background: It’s not just radio personalities that have been outspoken against the vaccine, only to be later felled by the virus. Earlier this week, Veronica Wolski, an anti-vaccine activist and QAnon advocate who demanded to be treated with the deworming drug ivermectin, died from complications due to Covid-19 in a Chicago hospital, Forbes reported on Monday. H Scott Apley, a member of the State Republican Executive Committee and city councilman in Dickinson, Texas, who frequently posted anti-mask and anti-vaccine sentiments on his social media, died from Covid-19 complications in early August. A Colorado sheriff’s deputy named Daniel Trujillo was killed by the virus shortly after reportedly posting several anti-vaccination opinions on his social media. Big Number: 666,816. That’s the number of lives Covid-19 has so far claimed in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic.
One is driven by public safety or welfare. You could argue the other is driven by how people should value life. It's always possible to reduce each others points into absurdities. The loss of context is usually how politics becomes a tragic race to the bottom.
Related @Os Trigonum https://news.yahoo.com/andrew-yang-says-officially-left-145720406.html Andrew Yang says he officially left the Democratic Party
The struggle to stay relevant is real. Just go ask Beto but at least Beto is going to not pull this stupid stunt. Yang, if he runs third party, will be running to help the fascistic party that literally is trying to overturn Democracy. For someone who is supposed to be so smart, certainly he can’t be that stupid. I really don’t understand and it’s not being articulated by attention whores like Tulsi, Sinema, and Yang… what values the “Democrats” have sold out on?? 99% of the party minus Sinema are working to pass real legislation. The reconciliation bill would be the biggest piece of progressive legislation since LBJ and maybe even The New Deal. Everyone from AOC to Joe Biden are working on this and NOW people like Andrew Yang want to act like the party is just as bad as the party of violent insurrection and abortion bans??? I’m over Yang. He had a clever presidential run propped up by a gimmick. Then he got blown out in a run for mayor, and now he’s butt hurt, and desperate to stay relevant. Good luck with your third party Yang. Go talk to Ralph Nader about third parties…. Or maybe you stop running gimmicks and just be a better candidate that actually wins a damn race.
I like Beto actually but I’m just saying the guy just runs for everything which it feels like Yang is doing. The mayor run was weird and now whatever he’s lining up now feels like a stunt. It’s like the saying “those who can’t teach” (which is BS because few people who have supposedly made it have the strength to be a teacher). If you can’t win as a Democrat, start a third party stunt. Ralf Nader couldnt win as a Dem, and thought he was special enough to create a stunt which helped get George W Bush in the White House. Jill Stein is a similar story but she’s far more weird. Beto and Yang are not Obama but they seem to act like they have some higher level importance and the party snubbed their noses at them when in reality they just weren’t all that great and Twitter followers does not = strong candidate for winning at the highest levels as a Democrat. Also it helps to first show that you can actually win something first too. AOC has some wins under her belt now and will likely be taken far more serious than Yang ever will. Lastly -what does Yang have to do with Texas? I only brought up Beto because of the similarities in their rise, burnout, and relevance struggles.
The big difference I see... in one case, at some point soon over 1 million Americans will have died, many of which easily preventable. One million fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, grandparents, uncles, aunts... people that lived important lives, and people that mattered to others. And decisions to not get the vaccine impacts so many other people around them, risking the health of the larger community around them. Not just by potential virus spread, but also filling hospitals so others without the virus can't be treated. And in the other case, an embryo won't become a father, mother, etc...
Forcing a woman to carry to term is a far more egregious violation of bodily autonamy than forcing someone to getting pricked with a vaccine that has scientifically been proven to be safe in order to participate in public life like school and work. Come on dudes. I know none of us have been pregnant before but we at least know women who have and the pain they endure is immense. Forcing that is far more damaging. Women don't t get abortions because of misinformation online. People don't get vaccines because of misinformation online.
The real comparison would be federal government withholding funding for abortions and withholding findings for companies without vaccine mandates.
Sure on the face of it both parties use hypocritical rhetoric and this isn't the first time. That said vaccine mandates as they've currently been presented aren't about every one under any condition takes the vaccine. The GOP line as we see with things like the TX law is no exception. Also while both parties argue for life the main difference is when is something a life? As most who support keeping abortion legal wouldn't consider an embryo or a fetus up to a certain point alive whereas most who oppose abortion believe life begins at the moment of conception.
My favorite part of the vaccine is that it’s vaccines Pfizer Moderna Johnson and Johnson Aztrazeneca Sputnik Sinovac it’s like saying ‘hey did you get the beer?’ @Os Trigonum @rocketsjudoka @Space Ghost
Too little too late for the YangGang. He should have done it 2 years ago when he was being treated like shiet from the Dems and the media. If he would exposed them when he was running for how racists they actually are, leaving the party and run as an independent, he would have been a serious player. He chose to play nice and kiss Biden’s booty and became a joke like he is now. People follow courage, he should have done a Tony Montana “ All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one “.
It’s still a violation of bodily autonomy, it being proven safe or effective doesn’t change that. Now is it really a violation if its not forced, but just required for everyday life activities like school and work which have work arounds? That’s a bit of a grey area, technically no but at the same time, effectively yes. Do we care about bodily autonomy and to what extent? A good question for the country to ask its self.
We as a society accept that we will be responsible for our health in order to protect the health of the community of people around us. hence, we are required to stay home when we are sick. We are required to take vaccinations against highly contagious diseases when we attend public schools, and we can be prosecuted for spreading highly contagious diseases when we know we have them.
