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Would you trade John Wall & 3 - 4 1st rounders for Ben Simmons?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Sep 20, 2021.

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Would you trade John Wall & 3 - 4 firsts for Ben Simmons?

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  1. D-rock

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    LMFAO!

    Caris F'ing Levert?????

    Wall has to be better than Levert!?!



     
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  2. ElPigto

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    Here is a trade you'll like. Picks can be worked out. We cut Lamb.

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  3. NewAge

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    14-7-7 is not "almost a triple double"... Your general point is correct, but Simmons will have to be better at all of these - rebounding, cutting, getting screens - to justify it. And also, if he cuts to the basket, make himself available and gets the ball, he'll have to you know, dunk it... Will he?
     
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  4. ApacheWarrior

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    It's just my opinion, I don't talk to the guy. But I feel he has been fine flying under the radar
    but now is getting grilled by the basketball world for not doing enough.

    How is the guy suppose to show the world he can do more if the post up game
    of Embiid and Tobias Harris keep restricting his game?

    I've shown you that their USG% is greater than Simmons in his entire 4 year career.
    How in the world do you screen when a player is posting up? You tell players
    or teammates to clear out. The opposite of what needs to happen.

    The only way Simmons can excel is by changing teams. Forcing Simmons
    to screen to a greater extent is forcing a square peg in a round hole while in Philly.

    What Simmons needs to do is go to a team that doesn't feature the post up
    game to such a high extent.
     
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  5. D-rock

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    Good thing Lebron did not let his playoff blunders early in his Cavs career define him.

    It's obvious the Simmons no longer has the ability to dunk. :rolleyes:o_O

    Why do I even engage with stupid people?

     
  6. Houston77

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    Brogdon and LeVert for Simmons works money-wise. Not saying the 76ers would go for that, or that the Pacers would offer it, but it does work.

    Brogdon / Maxey
    Curry / Tybulle
    LeVert / Green
    Harris
    Embiid / Drummond
     
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  7. ApacheWarrior

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    Yes, we saw Capela run that "Dunker Spot"....but along with Harden through Isolations.

    But Capela could never run PnR or shoot such a high percentage from 10 feet to 3 feet from basket.

    Capela wishes he moved like Simmons as a PG/SG while bringing the power of a 245
    pound Center with hook shot layup capabilities.

    He is too fast for PF's/Centers to keep up with and too big for 6'6" guards or SF's to
    handle down low.

    Add that 6'10" frame that Silas likes his Centers/PF's to have to pass over the tops of people.
    Green and Porter and Tate and Kenyon would feast on back door cuts or slashing.
     
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  8. tycoonchip

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    I agree with this. I don't think Simmons is a complete bum! I just don't think we need him in our scenario currently. We need to know if this is KPJ's and Green's team. We need those two to grow up first. I think Green will surpass all of them just off the athleticism and work ethic itself. We shouldn't let anything hinder that.
    Again if it were 3 years down the line. I'd be all for it. With our stars that haven't even come to their own yet, this could stunt their growth.
     
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  9. Easy

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    Yes, I've been saying that Simmons could play the rich man's Capela role. He would not be the primary ball handler in the half court. The question is, of course, whether he is willing to do that.
     
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  10. Easy

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    No, not score. If he was a scorer, he would have averaged more points already.

    Yes, like I said, the Capela role. Is he willing to do it?
     
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  11. NewAge

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    So you saying LeBron at 25 is what Simmons is now? And LeBron passed-up open dunks early in his career? And you’re saying you’re not the stupid one here?
     
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  13. D-rock

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    Lebron absolutely passed up shots at end of games, especially early on in his career.

    Know your history.
     
  14. RHU525

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    Lol what? Lebron passed up bad shots to feed his wide open teammates better looks. That is nothing like Ben Simmons turning down wide open layups cuz he's afraid of shooting free throws.
     
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    You are the one who needs to know history for even trying to compare Lebron to Simmons SMH :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Pls tell me when Lebron got run out of Cleveland cuz he was afraid to shoot?

    By the time he was 26, Lebron was so dominant he won his 2nd MVP. He wouldnt get **** if he scored 1 fg the entire 4Q like Simmons.

    Know your history.
     
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  17. D-rock

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    It was an analogy for Pete's sake, as no player is without flaws or areas of improvement. :rolleyes:

    It's like trying to teach chimps algebra around here.
     
  18. D-rock

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    That was NOT the criticism on Lebron.

    He turned down GAME winning shots.

    This history is fairly recent, google it if you dont have a fvcking clue.
     
  19. RHU525

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    I totally disagree. Lebron plays basketball the right way and he gets criticized. He literally passed to wide open team mates that missed and it's his fault. Of course the media was gonna criticize him cuz what fun is it to criticize a Mo Williams. Like you think him shooting a fadeaway three over 2 defenders is a better play. He still does that today too. He makes the right play, it doesn't always have to be a shot.


    I don't understand how this is related to Ben Simmons. I've never seen Lebron pass up a dunk.

    Not to mention in his 4th season Lebron took the worst Cavs team to the finals on his back. Heck scored the last 26 points against the Pistons. What are you even comparing?

    Here is a prime example. He's double teamed and Haslem is Wide open. What's wrong with this play? Of course he got vilified for it though. The biased media will have you believe he's unclutch when the numbers say he's probably the most clutch player in nba history.
     
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  20. luckyman76

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    Simmons is so effective even a midget can guard him. This board survived LOFs but will it survive SOFs especially when he will never be on this team...
     
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