what about the long term unknown effects of COVID and why do you think those are worse than the vaccine?
I tried to read your post, but I stopped reading at 22 billion. You realize that 22 billion is a drop in the ocean for big pharma, right? That doesn't even cover their R&D costs for 1 year, lmao. You actually think they would take any sort or risk for THAT? Lmao. I get that sounds like a lot for you personally, but you can't use your personal experiences to justify further research. Doing that is what actual researchers call bias. I get that you are scared of needles, but let's not pretend there's a logical reason for not taking the vaccine.
I am not going to lie, I am annoyed that this thread is still on the first page lol. I wish I could "ignore it" but it's just there. Curse you @Doctor Robert . Rockets are 100% vaccinated. Move this **** to the D&D. Let the the people rumble there.
We don't know the full long term effects of covid either. Covid certainly seems to have the potential for much longer term and more severe side effects compared to the vaccines as things stand today. That really is very hard to get around. Feel free to watch Dr Been lectures or John Campbell discussions on youtube. I feel both of those doctors are very well balanced and measured with their approach to covid and to the vaccines. I do agree that very little with covid is settled "science" at this point as well. I disagree that they were rushed for political reasons, but I agree that some American policy surrounding covid vaccines completely ignores data. Do you feel the same about monoclonal antibody treatment being rushed as well? It seems to be very well tolerated with minimal side effects and a very good success rate almost on par with vaccines. Do you have the same sentiment against that treatment? mRNA technology is not new either. If you are genuinely interested in learning about the history then here you go. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w The tangled history of mRNA vaccines Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the coronavirus pandemic brought a breakthrough.
When literally only about 5% of healthcare workers are reporting the adverse effects on VEARS how the hell would we know which is more likely? This whole thing is a shot show.
No one knows. All I know is the adverse effects aren’t being reported like that should and I have yet to meet or even hear of anyone that has had covid having any long term effects.
Wonderful. In the same way you can choose not to get jabbed, I hope you can respect societies choice not to interact with you in the office, at new jobs, in restaurants, etc. Best of luck to you. Thanks for slowing the rest of us down.
I thought the vaccine was supposed to cause infertility for worldwide population control? Well my wife got pregnant 4 months after the jab. False advertising.
Look, I think it's fair to say that nobody is going to convince you to take the vaccine. Just recognize that you're evaluating risk in an anecdotal way that ("all I know is ...") that public health officials (mercifully) reject, that you don't seem to have a textured understanding of the data you are trying to cite (the UK data says the opposite of the things you think it says), or any real command of the relationship of the health care bureaucracy to "big pharma" (the idea that Walensky is the pocket of "big pharma" is DL one of the funniest things on here). I guess what I'm saying is that it's fine to have an opinion. But don't position yourself as some bearer of fact-based straight talk when you keep making one embarrassing factual blunder after another, invoking lazy-stupid MAGA buzzwords in the process. And with that, I'm done here.
I see you didn't take any time to respond to what I asked or even read what I wrote and linked. I tried to take some time to write a thoughtful response back to you, but you don't seem interested in anything other than your own point of view. Very disappointing to see. I do agree that the VAERS data is fun to look at but it's hard to draw any significant conclusions. If you are curious about vaccine side effects then the EU data seems to be much more clearly compiled and reported. The UK has made adjustments to vaccine administration to help minimize vaccine injury which America and the CDC seems to be happy to stick their head in the sand over. Simple aspiration of the shot to see if they are hitting a vein prior to administration seems to be significant source of vaccine injury. Why am I even typing? You aren't going to read any of it even if I write something that you agree with.
I see some D&Ders here, but it looks like most know better than to crap in the GARM. The funny thing is this thread would have died a long time ago in the D&D. We've already been over it a hundred times.
