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The 2021-2022 Tank Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bleedroxred79, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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  2. D-rock

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    LOL

    That's a lot of assumptions.

    You're obviously just being defensive because I pointed out the flaw in your ridiculous take.
     
  3. D-rock

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    Hardy is my favorite of the top 3 players.

    But I agree, adding YET another guard to this guard heavy team is asinine.
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    And you obviously didn’t take into account the whole argument and wanted to play gotcha.

    Apparently saying the Rockets aren’t the Kings is a ridiculous take…

    And now that you jumped into my conversation, you won’t tell us if you think the Rockets and Kings are on the same level of FO?
     
  5. JayGoogle

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    I think it's interesting that you are so happy about how the Rockets were run during the Morey era and how proud you are of the Rockets history during that era...and the team never tanked during that era. Not once, in fact they were adamant against doing so...

    The Rockets gained that respect as an organization by not tanking and it allowed them to build competitive contending teams and they did this when the rules even benefitted the strategy more...
     
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    Posted before I will post again

    https://www.businessinsider.com/houston-rockets-tanking-2014-3

     
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    You are stuck on this point.

    The point is, the Rockets FO talent level is TO BE DETERMINED.

    You're comparing the PAST Front Office (Morey/Les/MDA) to that of the Kings.

    This Front Office, Tilman, Stone, Silas...has accomplished diddly squat my dude. Diddly nothing do dah squat. We very well could be the Kings, all this team has accomplished is losing so much to draft a guy that most other NBA teams would have drafted in the same spot. Congrats. They haven't accomplished anything. Getting 'prospects' doesn't mean they will. All these decisions can bust and we very well could be a laughing stock of the NBA after 5 years.

    This ain't the Morey/Les years anymore, this is an entirely new FO that should be judged on their own failings or success. They don't get to take credit for the last era.
     
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    They are on same level of ownership stupidity.

    And both FO are from the Morey tree.

    How's that for facts?
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    This is originally your argument.... That we don't know if the Rockets can be trusted with a rebuild, but we can trust them with a Simmons retooling..... Just very convenient towards your ideology about tanking.

    And what evidence has Stone given you that would suggest we are at the Kings level? Do you dislike the KPJ move? Did you dislike our 2021 draft? Do you dislike getting an agreement with John Wall to sit?

    The ownership is the most concerning part, which could very well be like the Kings. The ownership screwed up the Harden era by being cheap (trading away 1st to save money) and being impatient (Russ and Wall trades). However, this also applies to a Simmons trade and committing to a Simmons era.

    I am less concerned about player development and talent evaluation than I am about a meddlesome owner. Frankly, I think a rebuild (where we aren't worrying about spending money) bodes well for an owner like Tilman than trying to immediately compete again.
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    We agree about ownership, but you still demurred about Stone.....

    Tell me about Stone, do you trust him?
     
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    Warming up but still on the fence.
     
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    And would you put him on the Kings level?
     
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    As of right now, Rockets are the bottom feeders of the NBA.

    Exactly at Kings level, nay below them if based on results of last season.

    Rockets have some exciting young players and future looks bright.

    But Kings fans have seen and felt the same after MANY drafts.

    TBD
     
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    KPJ has man crush monday for his boy Emoni Bates.
     
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    Well naturally.... you are automatically against tanking while I want to use whatever team building strategy is appropriate for the context. Given that the owner didn't want to tank and we were a perennial 8th seed before Harden, we had to use a strategy built around that. That is not our current situation with a bottom ranked team and two seasons of draft picks before we start giving them to OKC again.

    I very much disagree that the Rockets gained respect through not tanking.
     
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    I'm not talking about the talent level of the roster, but of the GM and his staff. Sometimes good teams bottom out and have to rebuild and you and @JayGoogle contend that we shouldn't trust the FO to rebuild but to retool....
     
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    Not sure how many different ways you want me to say the same thing.

    I am warming up to the Rockets FO but still very much on the fence on them being capable of rebuilding a CHAMPIONSHIP contender.

    Being a Morey disciple does not automatically make them as capable as Morey.

    Clear?
     
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    But you aren’t on the fence with them retooling around Simmons to build a contender?

    Yes?
     

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