Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Are we really still conversation over these absolute idiots

 

After September 18th, we may have a whole new set of idiots to talk about.

 

Does it matter? Seriously?

Who is in a better position to gauge the mental capacity of the president? His sycophants and fanboys? Or the adults in the room interacting with the toddler-in-chief on a daily basis?

That you are unable to recognize and/or unwilling to acknowledge the clear and imminent danger that a mentally unbalanced president presents to the world at large is telling.

 

Something I never thought I’d ever say:

Im so glad the VP decided to call Dan Quayle.

Just imagine how different January 6 would have been had Pence called @Os Trigonum ’s source of legal truths Jonathan Turley or OJ representing Alan Dershowitz.

 

don't understand the comment but thanks for the hat tip

 

Just the idea that someone would have Dan Quayle's phone # for emergencies... but this was his greatest service to the nation.

 

Seriously though... what would have happened had Mike Pence called Jonathan Turley instead that day? Can we even fathom what that would have meant had Pence been given the answer he was looking for?

 

you do realize that to an actual conservative Turley is perceived as pretty liberal? e.g.,

...it appears that the commentariat on both Ann Althouse’s blog and the home of Professor Turley’s usually excellent analysis have also become overwhelmingly conservative as the progressives have fled except for a few determined souls. Ann and the professor are both left-leaning, but their integrity has led them to be critical of the progressive hive as well as the news media that nourishes it. Being objective is now the mark of an evil conservative, apparently, or so their critics claim.
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By my own reading this probably makes Turley more of a centrist than "left-leaning," but of course your mileage may vary.

if you want to read the rest: https://ethicsalarms.com/2021/09/15...5-2021-having-a-hard-time-keeping-up-edition/

 

go ahead and laugh, that just says more about your biases and blindspots than anything else

 

Does flip flopping Turley have any left? LOL...

 

same comment applies

 

Came across this quote in a book I was reading.

JFK from the grave had a pretty good read on you dip$hit supporters...

 

If it could be proven in any way that I was a staunch Democrat in the past, and then randomly announced to the world that the MAGA positions on (pick your topic) are right, I would have thousands if not tens of thousands of followers on all forms of social media almost automatically.

If you love attention, and notoriety and don't care about the ethics of those who will follow you... just simply have Dem credentials, or brown skin, and then go MAGA. You will be fulfilled beyond your wildest dreams.

It's actually shocking that there are not more Jonathan Turley's.

 

Turley is intelligent. I'd like to think, away from his Twitter followers and his blogosphere pals, he would have told Mike Pence, hell no, you jackass, do not overturn democracy. But I usually give people way too much credit. Maybe he would have smelled a new opportunity and given Pence some pretzel logic way to satisfy Trump, probably citing an obscure cattle-farming law from the almanac of 1883 or using a comparison to some bowling tournament cancellation rule from 1949.

 

I would actually be more concerned with Dershowitz honestly. That guy has no moral compass of any sort. Turley is intelligent for sure, and that's probably why he figured out quick that he can help his media career out quite a bit by exercising the heel turn that he did. Understanding his patriotism, and moral compass personally is maybe a bit less clear... since you know... he's not a guy known for being best buds with Epstein, and didn't work to get a murderer free.

The 12th amendment though is very clear that if Congress cannot certify the electors, the House then is supposed to have a state by state vote. Where that day was unclear from a legal standpoint is what constitutes as a valid reason for Congress not certifying. Could be states refusing to send electors, sending second set of electors, and Trump's logic of just pure disruption to the actual process being reasoning or Pence just throwing a fit, and refusing to leave the bathroom or whatever. The constitution isn't clear there, and that's where I would be very concerned about Pence's Constitutional law advice, and where it was interesting that Dan Quayle of all people was the one for him to go to, and to get that kind of answer.

So under the legal advice of someone like Dershowitz, I think January 6th could have went very differently. I think Dershowitz would have said that it's his constitutional right to just refuse to show up, and in that case it's the Constitutional mandate under the 12th amendment that any member of Congress, not just Nancy Pelosi, can call for a vote, and the parliamentarian must grant a vote, and that vote then is recognized by the Chief Justice at the swearing in ceremony later that month.

 

Turley had said Mike Pence has no authority to reject certification. I think he even argued that Congress should have no role in challenging results.

 

Right but Pence's ability to overturn the election isn't the issue. It's the Constitutional interpretation that if Pence refuses to certify, or gets sick or whatever, that the Constitution then calls for Congress to vote state by state. I think even Turley has to admit that the Constitution doesn't give the VP election overturning powers.

 

Turley is intelligent. He no longer qualifies as left leaning, right leaning, or centrist. He is merely opportunistic. In this case he is seizing opportunity defending Trump and twisting his knowledge in order to support Trump.

He will occasionally through in meaningless statements about how he doesn't support this or that to try and make it appear as if he is taken a purely academic approach. Yet, his articles purposefully ignore bits and pieces of information that would go against his chosen support of Trump and the Trump Administration.