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Afghanistan 2021

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. durvasa

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    https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/150-americans-to-board-qatar-commercial-flight-out-of-kabul/

    WOW looks like 150 safe americans back home with no issues and they werent beaten up. Its so pathetic how the neocons and media have been spinning conspiracies this entire time. Its truly a miracle that we were able to get out of Afghanistan and win against the deep state. First the entire media told us that the taliban was working with ISIS and they were part of the deadly attack. Then it was the americans left back are hostages and we should've kept our troops at risk.

    Its crazy how the only sensible person thoughout this entire operation was Biden. If this was a republican president they would've 100% sent more american forces to recapture kabul which would've led to a whole new invasion. Truly remarkable that we won this war against the deep state and military establishment.

    Just last week on foxnews they were claiming the Americans were hostages nd we whould reinvade them LMAO. War mongering neocons scum LOST

    Diplomacy WON. Biden literally deserves a nobel peace prize
     
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  3. DaDakota

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    Yep, look back in this thread and you can see some neocons claiming the same thing..

    Here is an example and Trollso liked it.....lol

    DD
     
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    so you're saying the hostage crisis is over :cool:
     
  5. Amiga

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    dude

    not sure if serious

    in case you think so...

    Biden is not ending any war on terrorism, but expanding it "horizontally" hitting more regions with more remote "precision"
     
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    I was sensible.
     
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    So he closed up the Brick and Mortar shop and is opening up smaller satellite stores?

    Does Blackrock have their own app for Uber Strikes?
     
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    It's not over until Rep. Michael McCaul sings.
     
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    There was no hostage crisis war monger.:cool:

    The Taliban wants the US to get off their back so they will play nice until all Americans get out.
     
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    The "hostages", if we want to call them that, would be Afghans who don't have the legal paperwork to leave the country. But these are the same people that Republicans are saying shouldn't be accepted into America, so go figure.

    I never saw evidence of foreign nationals as the hostages.
     
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    The GOP supporters don't care about evidence and/or science.

    DD
     
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    Lol, so much outrage and concern over Americans left behind over the past few weeks and now that they're all back not a peep from those same people. At least show your sigh of relief so your fake outrage is credible from an outward appearance standpoint.
     
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    Sen Graham said there will be thousands of hostages if Biden does not extend deadline beyond 8/31. Rep McCaul said it's a hostage situation a few days ago. If those aren't evidences, I don't want what would be.
     
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    That is speech, hearsay, definitely NOT evidence.

    DD
     
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    Graham must be so happy and relieved. Has he made any comment on this great news?
     
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    Hes removing american soliders from harms way that were dying recklessly. The status quo was just 20-30 dead soliders a year with another 5-10k in injuries. Now, if biden removes troops from Iraq and Syria then he will truly be the most anti war president in American history. The taliban could've attacked the airport and have accomplished the greatest military victory of the past 200 years against America. We had one runway active and close to 9k total NATO troops yet it went as good as it possibly could've. All the fear mongering from Foxnews about Taiban taking Americans as hostages and them attacking our troops was nothing but lies. If you look back in this thread you'll see tons of posts regarding how we abondoned our citizens and blah blah

    The bottom line is Biden diplomacy worked. We minimized troop causality while bringing home everyone we needed too. Biden proved to the world that diplomacy works and he trusted the taliban at a time no other western country trusted them.

    You can say what you want about Biden but he isnt no status quo President. He has more tougher decision then any other president from the past 60 years.
     
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    He gets credit for exiting. Trump gets credit for starting the process of exiting. Neither of those actions is Noble peace prize-worthy considering that the plan isn't to end but to strategically shift more toward a remote war on terrorism (which makes sense to me). In the last few days of the exit, a drone strike killed civilians. You can expect to see more of that.
     
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    Neither are nobel peace prize decisions? Stopping the 7000 dead afghan civlians that were dying every year, thousands of child sex slaves that were used by afghan generals, thousands of rural farmers that were bombed and had their land taken away were no big deal? There has been less violence in Afghanistan these past 2 weeks than they have at any time in the past 20 years. Thats the definition of PEACE. It may not be your type of "peace" but it is peace nevertheless.

    Biden plan is to shift from middleeast and revamp our airforce and focus on china which is 100% the right decision
     
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    I really hate this back and forth minute-by-minute scorekeeping. No one really knows what's going on or how it will turn out. A shill like Graham giving these declarations is no better than Max or Skip dropping a duece on their dailies.

    Jesus. They kept us fooled for a good 20 years, except now everyone thinks or pretends the information and visibility there magically got better in a few weeks?

    We are so headed into another forever war with Eastasia.

    We're already halfway there. Sports ratings are down. Some new coverage will spice up the monotony of Covid and answer the question of whose ass to kick when this 12 yr stock rally slumps for more than year.

    But we Know Better and it aint gonna happn agin!! Ret. Gen. Miley Cyrus on MSNBC told me so!
     
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