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Did You Care About Afghanistan Women?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Aug 31, 2021.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    If the women all left and created a new nation , the Taliban will die cause they can’t reproduce
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    You’re a ****ing drunk moron. Shut up and sit down
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What you fail to acknowledge is that most over there wanted the US out, that they saw us as the corrupt society who were trying to take their culture away. They wanted us out and some wanted us to stay. It was never going to work when the majority prefered the Taliban to us.

    As for Afghan women who will be oppressed, it's horrible. But there is nothing we can do about that. The least we can do is lobby for women's rights everywhere and that starts first and foremost here at home within our borders
     
  4. Astrodome

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    I feel terrible that the Taliban rules them now. The Taliban is trash.
     
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    I feel bad for them, but there’s nothing we can do

    20 years of work was undone in 1 week…that whole situation was hopeless from the beginning
     
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  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Yes I care about the women in Afghanistan just as much as I care about the women in Saudi Arabia, but unless we really want to take over the world and kill everyone that gets in our way, we can't solve other countries' problems for them. We nuked Japan and killed a lot of Germans and we are in both countries over 70's later.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    Do we care? Sure. I think most humans care about most humans.
    Do we care enough to do something about it . . .. . . now you walking into the murky gray waters

    Rocket River
     
  9. Andre0087

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    A whole generation grew up without the Taliban and I pray to God that they make it through no matter how unlikely...
     
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    The world is unfair indeed. If we ever get concerned on trivial things , remember it could be way worse
     
  11. tinman

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    But we are the world
    We are the children
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I didn't know anything about the treatment of women in Afghanistan before 9-11. That's really my point. I'm not heartless. I remember early on a co-worker talking about their struggles.

    When I used to think about women in Saudi Arabia around that time I was bothered by the stupidity of publicly showing "superiority" to women. As far as Saudi Arabia I thought the women were not bothered but I don't want to argue about that as it doesn't matter
     
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    No... it was not hopeless until Biden got involved.
     
  14. Amiga

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    Caring and doing something about it is very different things. Our allies include the Saudi. Our business partners include the CCP.

    We don’t go all military conquest to spread our values for good reasons. But we keep forgetting that from time to time.

    Diplomacy and political pressure is the much better approach. That should not end. Military might should always be the absolute last resort and should be narrow and focused.
     
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    Of course.

    Baby girls were born right as the US entered Afghanistan and now, at 20 years old, have never known life under Taliban rule. I feel bad for all the people trying to live in Afghanistan, but especially this group, whom I think will have it the hardest.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yes. I care about the plight they endure. The suffering they will endure. The lack of freedom they have. Their inability to get educated. Their inability to be in the workforce. Their lack of basic human rights. The list goes on.
     
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    Its sad that girls 20 and under know a completely different life then their elders, I feel sad for them. I cant imagine what it would be like to tell a female that they cant work and on top of that they have to cover up from head to toe and in society`s hierarchy your on par with the family goat
     
  18. tinman

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    they don't even eat pork

    that's because some dudes back in the day didn't cook it correctly throughly and got sick and made it into religious law

    this is why human beings should be ruled by AI or a superior Alien species

    a lot of this crap , religion and politics is dumb
     
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    In general, I think we do care. I believe any semi-decent person wouldn't want to see civilians, especially women and children, suffer. I have faith in the good in people. However, I've seen enough bad in people as well. I get what OP is referring to. If we don't do anything about it besides "being outraged" behind a keyboard, our "caring" comforts ourselves more than do the ones are suffering.

    What can we do? Maybe start to demand consequences for wars, for CIA funding bad guys etc. But then again, even at today's information age, we are still fed with certain narratives. We only know about those dirty deals many years after. FOX and CNN would pick on each other's tiny embarrassment and run "outraged" reports for days, but none of them would report that US soldiers opened fire randomly after the blast and killed/hurt many Afghanis.

    We went after Bin Laden after 9/11, with the whole world behind us. Then was the Iraq War, by the "coalition of the willing", not to forget about the very important Poland. Had we stopped at bringing Bin Laden to justice, and refused to build nation or insert democracy and just leave Iraq alone, the outcome might have been better.
     
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    Could make immigration easier for people in countries worse off than the U.S. and push our legislatures to enact such policy but I think it's easier to post on a basketball message board your sorrows of those poor people in that country way over there out of sight except through social media instead. Lets e-hold hands in prayer while morally patting ourselves on the back what good people we are for caring about the struggles of other people as we take no real action to help.
     
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