They had 310k people in their security force the Taliban had 70k, if they are not going to fight for their own country, it is not our responsibility. DD
Again it’s going over your head . “310k people” . If anything this last week should tel you it was all a sham. There was never an effort to rebuild or prepare the military. 90% of funds were siphoned to contractors here. Afghan men women and children have been slaughtered and displaced. It’s hilarious when 1st world brats pretend they understand what’s going on in the rest of the world
https://www.forces.net/news/five-years-what-are-british-troops-doing-afghanistan Get educated you imbecile.
Thanks for this! Good thing I said at the time of the post. They seem to have found this out just hours before I posted.
They left in 1843. Maybe we should write them a strongly worded message about how they abandoned the Afghans.
I've tried to speak to Afghans but the only ones I've been able to ask are people who would be considered upper middle income to very high income in the US. Not a lot of diversity in opinion. 2 of the 3 don't need a job or work of any kind to live a really nice life, you get the picture. Their opinion is that anything is better than the Taliban, and that the pace of development was acceptable. I laughed out loud, because they chose not to live there themselves. They said it's just cause it's boring there. Anyway, anything but the Taliban is short-sighted in my opinion, repeating the mistakes of Iranians and the Shah. You know what's worse than the Taliban? The Semi-Pakistani Taliban and the US (via a local warlord) both fighting over your country at the same time. What we have now is the Taliban heavily influenced by the US. That's just easier to beat because the Taliban - unlike some of their middle eastern counterparts - are totally incapable of running a state that doesn't end up having riots to kick them out. Lots of people people have tasted freedom in that country and, though religious, will not support an extremist interpretation. Things are different. Higher income Afghans living abroad are also highly concerned by the fact that it's very easy money for the Taliban to criminalize people who became rich through crime, bribery, nepotism, corruption themselves. You had a similar situation in Iran with the monarchists not really being pro-freedom as much as they were anti-change, and that's because the nepotism had done wonders for them and they did not want to lose what they had gathered. Once they evacuated their assets, they hardly ever looked back. A lot of people became very very rich during the invasion and not always for any kind of value created for the Afghan economy. So many of their kids live in the US, Europe or some fancy place in the Middle East. No doubt in my mind the exit was negotiated with a weapons deal. It's basically the price for leaving, plus lets Russia know that this is a US client, plus the Taliban are money and power hungry like anyone else I'm sure they'll be ecstatic about it. They know it will take some PR massaging before they would dare tell you that they've agreed to sell weapons to the freaking Taliban, but expect it in a year, two at most. It just really is easier to beat the Taliban. It's going to be less freedom for women, some hands chopped to make an example, and who knows maybe they do a few dozen executions a year which used to be their thing (they claim they won't but again who knows). However the other invader that was flat out murdering their men subjectively without trial and sometimes schools and weddings and hospitals is gone. I know it's a sensitive subject, but Americans do not have a right to defend America in Afghanistan. All Afghans including civilians have a right to shoot a foreign invader, so those are not militants. The whole point is to get you and the Taliban out, secure their sovereignty and then not have leftover lifetime debts/contracts/obligations to pay. Like exactly what you have at home. That's just logic. It's an ugly improvement for Afghans, to say the least, and even though it's an improvement it makes me sick to my stomach to see those monkeys in power. Post-Taliban the issue is when it comes time for the citizens to claim the opium fields and rights to the minerals, which is the start-up capital they absolutely need to build that country from scratch especially post-Taliban and especially if you don't want them coming back begging for aid. Those contracts to fields and minerals were not negotiated with any legitimate semblance of their consent, so they are void and will obviously go in the bin. That's when the invasions happen, let's see if it's any different this time.
How many British troops are in Afghanistan? What are they doing? Retrieving their citizens and bringing them where?? To the airport. Who is securing that airport? If it wasn’t for us they wouldn’t be able evacuate their own people. So yes who cares about the brits. They can **** off ungrateful assholes. Also if they are so concerned about Biden leaving the Afghans they can step up and replace the US. Again they can **** off. The US had more troops more invested in that country than other country. If they are so concern then the Brits could have replaced us? Who is the ignorant person here? Next time you call someone ignorant look in the mirror
I was suckered into giving them and Iraq freedumb. Wasn't old enough to legally buy alcohol so that's my excuse... But yeah anger and revenge don't translate well. Get led by the nose for ten twenty years...
There you go... All these countries that are acting so big and bad have already pulled the few soldiers they had over there..... They basically wanted the American Troops to stay they there, while they brought their people home and on top of that we have individuals on this board that want to post BS stuff about the parliament... F the Parliament and im happy that Biden did what he did.... I wish the other Presidents before him would have had the balls to do it also.... T_Man
If you do the math, they essentially took $6,000 out of 333 million bank accounts (total 2 trillion), made it back in spades: - where are pharmaceutical companies getting opium if Afghanistan owns over 90% of the world's opium and there's an global opioid epidemic going on? - All the contractors get paid regardless of who wins and those are people who were already rich with some exceptions when they buy citizen ideas for war - It doesn't look like they are done selling weapons, buying minerals or guarding opium there It's not a failure, it's 100% success from their perspective and if you understand that then you won't be surprised by how anyone is behaving. The magic trick is the whole point, take money out of the tax bucket, and put it into the bucket of people that are going to help them now and pay them later. Make it too technical for most people to figure out, make sure you're present at the places where they might figure it out (college campuses). Now think about how many wars you've had and how many times this has happened and what you could do with $50,000 cash right now. 6 out of 10 Americans can not afford an unexpected $1,000 emergency right now. You are one of the hardest working countries on earth, and the fruits of your labor are going to everyone but you. I get more benefit from that money than you do, and I'm neither American nor live in America. It's not a failure, it's a heist. Every empire makes their heist just too technical enough to remain muddy to the population while it's happening and until it's too late. It used to be taxes when you guys broke free from the Queen, but now we're onto derivates and oil trading and pharmaceuticals, they don't stop evolving. We're talking about what they were talking about in their offices 5 years ago or something. They're onto the next one, and you're still voting from their pool of buddies. Does this stuff bug Americans at all? How can you ignore it and just do what you can with what you have when they are daily scheming to take more from what you give? Doesn't it feel like a hamster wheel, like you're working a lot and inventing more than any other country and it's going nowhere in your bank account? It's like a dystopian novel, jesus. Sometimes I feel like Americans are so bombarded by fear of elsewhere that they consider it the benefit that overrides someone shoveling money out of their accounts. It's beautiful everywhere guys. Like how are all so many socialist European citizens taking home more money than you if you're in the market where people get rewarded for work and you work more than them? Hint: they reduced their physical war on the world by 90% and on each other practically 100%. It allowed them all to gather momentum and build their countries without the paranoia that everyone is out to get them and any kind of BS treatment at home is worth being at home. You got it guys, I sense a change in Americans, less willing to accept BS. Something's gotta change for something to change.
I wish Trump pulled out mainly because of this reason: https://www.axios.com/republican-vo...526-8f963dfd-17f1-4ed6-804b-30a0748a0a75.html Democratic support: 38% support in 2013, 37% support in 2017 Republican support: 22% support in 2013, 86% support in 2017 The reason it was important for Trump to do it was that the country would be more unified in the decision to leave due to the cult of personality with Trump. What to do you think @TheresTheDagger ? Do you think it would have been more beneficial for Trump to do with the withdrawal?
