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Infrastructure, Infrastructure, Infrastructure

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Feb 20, 2021.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Nope, a tech boom like Trump.

    Not sure how cutting welfare to pregnant mothers under 18 was effective...... or stimulated the economy.
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You wrote this:

    Notice we didn't have supply chain issues until after Biden took office?

    That is blatantly false. Supply chain issues began last year, well before the election. Why would you make such a blatantly and provable statement like that?
     
  3. Phillyrocket

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    The Dems goal is to make everyone pay their fair share which hasn’t happened since Reagan gutted the top rates which again hollowed out the middle class leading to the extreme wealth inequality we see now. And don’t give me half the country pays no income taxes. They pay a plethora of sales taxes, property taxes, on and on.

    You agree about shipping jobs off but also are ok to cut taxes on those same companies? You want to reward the same companies that shipped off the jobs? Oh wait you think they will take the savings and invest it creating more jobs. Nope. But there were plenty of stock buybacks though. Corporate balance sheets are also at record highs. That benefits the 1% that own the vast majority of the stock market. But it sure as hell hasn’t trickled down to higher wages or more jobs.

    You are right though more money in people’s hands leads to demand which leads to job creation which is where we are now. Now there is so much demand companies are offering higher wages, bonuses, tuition reimbursement, etc. That never happened because of tax cuts. It happened because of stimulus, increased UE benefits, increased child tax credits, etc.

    You want to help the middle class but jobs are just being offshored, automated, or severely underpaid tax cut after tax cut. Private sector has failed the middle class so now the government has to create the jobs.

    You want to see a real benefit to the middle class then it will come with single payer healthcare, free college tuition, childcare programs, etc. Call it socialism but it wouldn’t be necessary if jobs paid better wages so the middle class could afford college, childcare, etc. and wasn’t one medical bill away from bankruptcy.

    If trickle down did what it was supposed to no Liberal or Progressive would want to take from those that earned. It’s not about supporting the lazy and entitled with free everything it’s about the failed promise of supply side economics.

    We the people gave them the tax cuts but they didn’t create the jobs.
     
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  4. wompwomp

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    i posed this before but seeing the direction of this thread I figured it might be time to post this again.

    Obama’s Last Three Years Of Job Growth All Beat Trump’s Best Year
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...th-all-beat-trumps-best-year/?sh=1f811d5b6ba6
    this was before COVID.

    President Trump says he ended the "war on coal." But industry casualties have accelerated under his turbulent leadership, with coal plant retirements eclipsing those that occurred during the last four years of Barack Obama's presidency.
    https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063430425

    According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (USEIA), total U.S. coal production in 2019 was 705.3 tons, down 6.8 percent from the previous year and the lowest level of output in over 41 years. In 2018, production likewise fell by 2.4 percent. According to the Kentucky Annual Economic Report 2020, the state’s coal production likewise fell 5.2 percent in 2018 to 39.6 million tons, the lowest level of output since 1954.
    https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article244088642.html

    how about farmers? The rate of bankruptcies were at its highest in 8 years. This was also before COVID.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-an-eight-year-high-court-data-idUSKBN1ZT2YE

    The CHINA-US deficit also hit record highs,
    The overall trade deficit was $67.1 billion, reflecting a surplus in services trade with the rest of world — the highest since 2006. The deficit for U.S. goods trade by itself was $83.9 billion, the highest ever recorded.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/06/goods-trade-deficit-august-record-high-426739
     
  5. raining threes

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    I misspoke.

    The supply chain issues weren't bad last yr.

    They're much worse now.
     
  6. Andre0087

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    Keep raining bricks...maybe you can beat Trump's election court loss count...go go go!!!
     
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  7. raining threes

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    I'm actually hoping Trump doesn't run in 2024.

    I'm also hoping that the election machines are fully vetted and people aren't locked down so they will have to show up to vote like every other election besides 2020.

    This just in, China was willing to put a plague on the world to defeat Trump. Think about that for a minute and how that may affect your kids future.
     
  8. adoo

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    bricker, bricker, bricker

    if only Trump had not call it a hoax,

    just the opposite is true.

    because of the pandemic, in 2020, many ports were close, causing bottlnecks worldwide.

    in 2021, w the vaccination, not as many port closing
     
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  9. raining threes

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    Truth is it doesn't matter if he called it a hoax or not.

    The Chinese put a plague on the world with no repercussions.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I think you misspoke again. I assume you meant were?

    Depends on what one's looking for. Every grocery store I've been to in the past number of months has had full shelves and full meat counters.

    Some things have improved, others haven't. Anecdotally, most things I am familiar with and my neighbors and family are familiar with are easier to get today than last August.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Very little of the Contract with America was implemented because Clinton not only was the President but at the time also had a line item veto.
     
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    Except for the fact that the PRC economy suffered badly, they lost the trust of most of the World and several thousands of their people died.

    This idea that the PRC deliberately released COVId to take down Trump makes no sense at all. It makes as much sense as the PRC claim that it was created by the US.
     
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  13. Andre0087

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    I have to say I agree with most of what you say but feel like I'm wasting my time speaking to certain people here. You are one dedicated mother****er...keeps stating those facts and whatever else you choose to do.
     
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  14. rocketsjudoka

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    Unfortunately I have time to waste. I’m stuck trying to download something I need for work in the morning from a very slow server
     
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  15. raining threes

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    I'm having trouble getting certain chemicals to do various jobs now that Iwasn't having any problems getting last August. I'm having to over buy (If that's a word) to prepare for jobs that wont be starting for six to eight months. If you're talking about getting toilet paper then you are correct.
     
  16. raining threes

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    They either did this, or with held info and let the disease spread for profit. I'll let you be the judge of which one they did. Anyways they haven't really suffered any consequences. You think their leaders give a crap about their people much less other countries people. LMAO
     
  17. DonatelloLimestone

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    sometimes people get lost in the gross negligence of our budget when it comes to 'war' and the contractors who take advantage of it. this isn't just for that, but you look at the wall contract to newbies and they basically are just able to hand their buddies with a nod hundreds of millions of dollars they are entrusted by the tax payer, and then just **** it out to where the lobbyist who they really tune into outside of election season tell them to. then they comrpomise to make sure the PR is labeled as something their constituents will go for. usually works pretty easiler



    thats just a gym...theres gas stations and all sorts of things including fighter jets that we wasted billions on. Remember if you had questioned this around that time, fox and cnn were quick to call you unpatriotic...that works for a lot of things, trying to say something about social justice...nah bill of rights not right now, do it laster in a time i like better...theres a poltical class that stands for nothing but their own power
     
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  18. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I don't think the PRC deliberately released COVID. I do think they lied and covered up and pushed false narratives to try to save face and it ended up being incredibly damaging.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    I don't think anyone disagrees with that at least outside the CCP and propaganda controlled citizens of China.
     
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  20. No Worries

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    No need to look at Nixon.
     

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