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Random Trade Ideas 2021-22

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. Landry's Tooth

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    To Houston:
    #1 pick from Sixers
    Bojan Bogdanovich

    To Utah:
    Tobias Harris
    Danuel House

    To Sixers:
    Eric Gordon
    Joe Ingles
    Royce Oneale

    This would be if Utah/phi needs to make changes at deadline.

    Harris is a better player than what itah gives up but is overpaid...
     
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  2. Landry's Tooth

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    Laurie is getting way more than that... should be more than Olynyk...
     
  3. DM'sVP

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    It doesn’t seem like there is that much interest in him.
     
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  4. Landry's Tooth

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    It has nothing to do with him but his contract. He's a restricted free agent. If a team signs him the Bulls can match regardless of cap space. If you do that the cap space for you is frozen until the bulls match or not. This could mean sitting on the sidelines of free agency while everyone else gets signed.

    When that happens all the easy money dries up so there's only a few teams left with the space to sign him and if the needs on those teams aren't strong you can end up with bad offers.

    Most great young players are offered max extensions before restricted free agency. He's still developing...
     
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  5. xaos

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    Rockets In:
    Michael Porter Jr
    Tobias Harris

    Rockets Out:
    John Wall
    Christian Wood
    Danuel House
    Bucks Top 8 2023 FRP
    Rockets 2024 SRP

    Nuggets In:
    Ben Simmons
    Maxey

    Nuggets Out:
    MPJ
    Aaron Gordon
    Monte Morris

    Sixers In:
    (first clear roster spots?)
    Christian Wood
    Aaron Gordon
    John Wall
    Danuel House
    Monte Morris
    Bucks 2023 Top 8 FRP
    Rockets 2024 SRP

    Sixers Out:
    Simmons
    Maxey
    Tobias Harris

    I don't know... I am bored and am horrible at trade ideas haha
     
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  6. jch1911

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    HOU - PHI - GSW - ORL - LAC

    PHI: Jonathan Kuminga (GSW) + Eric Gordon (HOU) + Rajon Rondo (LAC) into TPE (9/7) + Patrick Beverley (LAC) possibly bought out + 2022 GSW FRP (unprotected) + 2026 GSW FRP (top 5 protected) + right to pick swap with GSW (2023, 2025)

    GSW: Ben Simmons (PHI) + Yogi Ferrell (LAC) into TPE + Andrew Tolliver (PHI)

    ORL: Luke Kennard (LAC) into TPE + Danuel House (HOU) into TPE + GSW 2022 SRP + LAC 2023 SRP + PHI 2023 SRP

    LAC: John Wall (HOU) + Isaiah Joe (PHI) into TPE

    HOU: Andrew Wiggins (GSW) Houston could even flip Wiggins to TOR for Pascal Siakam

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    HOU - PHI - SAC

    PHI: Buddy Hield (SAC) + Eric Gordon (HOU) + SAC 2022 FRP (top 10 protected) + SAC 2024 FRP (top 5 protected)

    SAC: Ben Simmons (PHI)

    HOU: Marvin Bagley III (SAC)

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    HOU - PHI - POR

    PHI: CJ McCollum (POR) + Eric Gordon (HOU) + 2022 POR FRP (lottery protected) + 2024 POR FRP (top 5 protected) + right to pick swap in 2023

    POR: Ben Simmons (PHI) + Isaiah Joe (PHI)

    HOU: Derrick Jones Jr (POR) + Nassir Little (POR)


    Take your pick!
     
  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    This is a well thought out trade. I like that the Cavs get a good deal here and are not just used. The Rubio/Garuba relationship is a nice touch.

    I do agree a lot of this hinges on Ibaka's back situation. But feels likely he could be out for a while. Clippers do not have control of their FRP next season so they would want to win as much as possible.

     
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  8. xaos

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    That was my drunk trade proposal... it's not that bad :D
     
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  9. conquistador#11

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    I like that trade because everyone wins which means Morey isn't going to do it. Gonna hoard Maxey at all cost.
     
  10. Rokman

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    You don't want Simmons on this team. He can't hit the broad side of a barn. Rockets ideal is to have 5 guys on the court at all times who can keep defenses honest to allow a guy like Green (previously Harden) to light it up unhindered. If Simmons is on the court the defense has no fear of slacking off of him and will double team the star forcing them to give up the ball or take a difficult shot.

    Why do yall think Morey wants him gone??!!!

    Simmons needs to end up on a team that needs a "star" to market but isn't going anywhere and knows it. We don't want him and most contending teams don't want him as he is a MAJOR hindrance to the offense and when you are in the playoffs you can't have a guy that can't hit a shot or is intentionally put on the line because he can't score there either.
     
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  11. Grizzlyshark

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    Been trying to think of ways to pull Isaac away from the Magic..

    If Sengun shows out later in the season.. does that make Wood expendable? Like I would love to keep him, don't get me wrong. And if we offload Wood we would HAVE to use him as an asset to get off Wall too.

    Some kind of

    Wood, House to Warriors

    Wiseman, Kuminga, Wall and picks to Magic

    Gary Harris and Isaac to the Rockets
     
  12. D-rock

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    Love Sengun but not sure if he is ready to start THIS season.

    But Garuba AND Isaac?

    One of those guys would have to go for spacing reasons.
     
  13. Grizzlyshark

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    Was thinking of KPJ, Green, Usman, Isaac, Sengun lineup in my hypothetical.

    I think you have 3 positive shooters (if from what little we've seen from Sengun holds up) and Isaac who, while he isn't fantastic, i think people will still respect his 33% from 3 enough to close out on him more often than not.
     
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  14. Grizzlyshark

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    Yeah it's a big if with Sengun..

    I had too much fun with Fanspo..

    Rockets in: Gary Haris, PatBev, Isaac
    Rockets out: Wood, Wall, House, Milwaukee 2023 FRP

    Magic in: Kuminga, Wiggins, Wiseman, Kennard
    Magic out: Isaac, Gary Harris

    Clippers in: Wall, Milwaukee 2023 FRP
    Clippers out: Rondo, PatBev, Kennard

    Warriors in: Rondo, House, Wood
    Warriors out: Wiggins, Kuminga, Wiseman
     
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  15. LikeMike

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    Not saying we should go for him - but I would say Simmons would be a pretty good fit here. We don‘t really have anyone that is great at creating shots for others - and Green isn‘t a good defender. So getting a 1 that is an elite defender and facilitator, that also rebounds and doesn‘t need to get his own shots sound pretty nice. He needs to get some confidence back, but then I would say he would be a perfect fit next to Green.
     
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  16. Grizzlyshark

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    Griz recieve Eric Gordon

    Cavs receive PatBev, Danuel House Jnr.

    Rockets receive Rondo (waive), Ricky Rubio
     
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  17. Yetti

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    I just wish You all would stop trying to trade our teams best player Christian Wood.
    Please let him at least play out his contract and improve from season to season. Y/
     
  18. Corrosion

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    No way ... Simmons might be the one contract / player that's worse than Wall.


    Wall's not hurting anything right now .... He'll be a positive asset in one more year , I'll wait rather than take on a player that doesn't give a f**k and doesn't work to improve.

    And Tate's my favorite Rocket right now ..... he's a no go from the get go.
     
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  19. Rokman

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    Vets are needed on any team. Can't just do 100% youth movement because the older guys help the younger guys develop along with the coaches. All practicing against rookie level talent does nothing to prepare them for an actual game.

    Now, do you want to pay a vet $40 mil to essentially help you bring up the next generation when you know there's not a snowballs chance in hell you are going to win a Championship? No.

    Does Wall want to do that? No.

    Is there anything that can be done to change it right now? Probably not.

    I think vets like Wall and Gordon would be advantageous for Green, KPJ and Christopher to have around to guide them through the first two seasons.
    I think a defensive minded vet like Theis Is needed for Sengun. Nwaba for Garuba. The next three seasons are all player development. I don't think we really start talking about competing until year 4 for this rookie class.

    Practice:

    Wall vs Porter Jr
    Gordon vs Green
    Nwaba vs Garuba
    Wood vs Martin Jr
    Theis vs Sengun
     
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  20. Hemingway

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    Very good take, although I think we will be competing sooner than 4 years, especially after we have the cap room two years from now.
     
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