California doing much better with Delta variant than Florida, Texas. Here’s why BY RONG-GONG LIN II, LUKE MONEY AUG. 11, 2021 5 AM PT SAN FRANCISCO — Despite a significant surge in both coronavirus cases and hospitalizations this summer, California so far has managed to avoid the sky-high infection rates and increasingly overcrowded hospitals some other states are now experiencing. California’s coronavirus case rate remains below the national average and significantly less than that of Florida and Texas: two common points of comparison given their population size and distinctly different pandemic responses. Experts say California’s better-than-average vaccination rates and newly implemented mandatory mask policies in parts of the state have helped prevent a more grim situation. While governors in Florida, Texas and other states have opposed allowing local governments to mandate the wearing of masks, California has allowed counties to enact such orders in indoor public spaces for everyone age 2 and older, regardless of vaccination status. ... https://www.latimes.com/california/...th-delta-variant-than-florida-texas-heres-why
Experts can disagree on things on occasion, without it meaning that the credibility of one or the other must be called into question. At any rate, go to any health organization you deem to be credible and pay attention to the recommendations they are giving with respect to masking. Can you point to any that say wearing masks don't make a difference?
You’re ducking the question - Were milions of people NOT wearing the mask during the height of the pandemic in 2020? It s a really simple question. You seem to have a problem with the simple fact that millions were not wearing masks. Is that because you don’t want to shine the spotlight on Trump’s unmitigated attack on mask wearing? Sadly, rather than confront facts, you want to live in the alternative universe where masks were worn and they just didn’t work, just like lord Trump said.
again. regular face coverings prevent the wearer from infecting others. n95 protect the wearer. Are you incapable of understanding the concept of wearing masks to protect OTHERS, which in turn prevents prevalence and spread of the virus? maybe that’s the problem, you glaze over when it comes to OTHERS.
And was your doctor talking about protection for you, or talking about community spread? Those are very different things. We're talking about community spread. Here is the critical question: If someone has COVID and they are out in public, are they more likely to transmit it to someone else when not wearing a mask than when wearing a mask? If the answer is yes -- and I haven't heard from a single expert in the field say otherwise -- and community spread is a severe problem, then general guidance that people should wear masks (as well as socially distance) when out in public is GOOD advice if the goal is to reduce spread.
You said millions were unmasked, and I think that statement needs to be analyzed. Where were these millions of unmasked people congregating? How did they spread covid? It couldnt have been out in the general public, because the public was masked, bars were closed, restaurants and other buildings required masks on entry. How did it happen? If masks truly worked, wouldnt these measures have been effective pre-vaccine? Welcome to the world of critical thinking.
You really want to explore critical thinking? when did the shut downs and mask wearing occur? When did cases begin to drop? I’ll wait.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...oth-face-coverings-public-preventing-covid-19 At the outset, I want to make several points crystal clear: I support the wearing of cloth face coverings (masks) by the general public. Stop citing CIDRAP and me as grounds to not wear masks, whether mandated or not. Don't, however, use the wearing of cloth face coverings as an excuse to decrease other crucial, likely more effective, protective steps, like physical distancing Also, don't use poorly conducted studies to support a contention that wearing cloth face coverings will drive the pandemic into the ground. But even if they reduce infection risk somewhat, wearing them can be important. I've received increasing criticism in recent weeks because I've offered more nuanced messaging on whether everyone should wear cloth face coverings in public to protect against COVID-19 transmission—messaging that some view as unacceptable. The criticism has included a recent commentary by Masks4All proponents Jeremy Howard and Vincent Rajkumar, MD, that mischaracterizes my position on cloth face coverings and misrepresents the science of personal protection for COVID-19. Again, I want to make it very clear that I support the use of cloth face coverings by the general public. I wear one myself on the limited occasions I'm out in public. In areas where face coverings are mandated, I expect the public to follow the mandate and wear them. At the same time, I have been concerned about "message creep" since the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) first recommended in April to use cloth face coverings without providing additional context regarding their use. Public health messaging should include a more precise discussion of the effectiveness of cloth face coverings in preventing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. We need to be clear that cloth face coverings are one tool we have to fight the pandemic, but they alone will not end it. And we need to underscore the key role that physical distancing plays—even when you wear a face covering.
