D&D Coronavirus thread

Are you really not following what’s going on in the hospitals there? Stop comparing this to a seasonal flu.

Local districts should be able to enforce rules to protect public safety in their communities. The only reason DeSantis is trying to lord over them in this situation and prevent them from enforcing their safety protocols is because he’s angling for a Presidential run and he thinks is this will help him on the national stage. He doesn’t have the safety of the people in his state foremost in his mind. The majority of people in FL support mask mandates in K-12:

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/445632-poll-62-support-mask-mandates-in-florida-schools/

 

Set a number based on transmission rate withheld over some duration and stick to it. I don’t see why that should be a problem. It’s nuts that you think people just want children to wear masks in school as some sort of power trip. Your understanding of other people’s perspective on this is stunningly poor. It’s based on a steady diet of strawman, cartoon depictions.

 

I don't. I'd suggest following the guidelines put forth by people who determine this kind of thing for a living.

 

Why must everything be Rep vs Dem? It's almost as if that's your only would view, which you project onto others.

Local schools make decisions they think is best for them and they are not allowed to do so. So they are going to court over the law or just plain ignoring the EO edict from Gov. This is going on in FL, TX, AR.

Schools sue and mayor defies Arkansas mask mandate ban - ABC News (go.com)

The Little Rock and Marion school districts asked a state judge to block the law Gov. Asa Hutchinson signed in April prohibiting schools and other governmental bodies from requiring masks.

The Marion School District on Thursday said 839 students and 10 staff have quarantined since classes began last week because of its outbreak. The district said in a Facebook post that 46 students and 10 staff have tested positive for the virus.

 

Perhaps your issue isn’t really about the masks, it’s about government exercising control over people’s kids. Like making kids go to school? Like making kids get regular old vaccines? Like some schools requiring school uniforms? Like government requiring kids to wear protective gear for some sports? Are you outraged about the gubmint controlling peoples kids in these instances?

Or maybe your issue is the message it sends to the kids?

Johnnie: you need to wear this mask because there is a virus that probably won’t make you very sick, but the thing is, it is easily passed between kids and to adults, and it has made adults really sick and killed some of them. We care about our community and friends, so we’re gonna mask up.

Versus

Johnnie: there is this virus that isn’t likely to harm you, but they still want you to wear a mask just because it is easily transmissible and could harm other adults. It’s ridiculous and people should really be free to do whatever they want, and it’s a free for all out there, so don’t worry too much about your friends and neighbors.

“Doing it to children for no reason is cruel” - the only thing we can conclude from this is that you basically think that covid should be allowed to circulate and what happens happens. If ICU gets overrun, so be it. If medical care professionals quit, so be it. If people die, so be it. Did I get that right?

 

Masking does very little and I think that's been proven by now. Unless we're all wearing N95s, it's not very effective - the virus is too contagious for a standard surgical mask or face covering to work. Add on top of that the improper mask wearing that you see everywhere. It's a little absurd that mask mandates are still being proposed. I hear people say, "well what's the harm? Worst case scenario it doesn't work." I disagree with that logic. It either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, I'm not wearing it.

I think vaccines should be the primary thing that is encouraged (but not forced). To date, those seem to the only thing making any significant difference in spread and intensity. No need go backwards to mask mandates that did very little.

 

The fact is that masks do work. N95s work best. That doesn't mean the others don't work it all. It's silly to not do something that helps because it doesn't help 100%

 

I disagree. Whatever non-N95s do is negligible.

 

What scientific study are you basing this conclusion on?

 

Lol, the fact it still spread like a damn wildfire last summer when the majority of the country was masked up. Spread didn't slow down until vaccines were rolled out (with the occasional cyclical spike, which is expected - mask or no mask).

 

That isn't a study.

 

You do know that personal opinion and your common sense isn't scientific, right?

The Science of Masking to Control COVID-19 (cdc.gov)

ps. imagine if vaccines are made on the basis of personal opinion and common sense

 

Vaccines actually work though.

 

And how do you know the cause of the spread last summer was primarily from the majority who were masked as opposed to the minority who were not?

 

We still have spread like wildfire and crisis at our hospitals. There is at least a few folks relying on their personal opinion and common sense to conclude that it clearly doesn't work.

 

Don't know. You tell me.

 

Cool story, bro.